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hi all;

this is about bussard fusion reactor. It was speculated that a polywell fusion is possible with a wiffleball design and that is not a kid plastic baseball.

If you are interested in this technology you can find more information athttp://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/index.php
happy reading
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Yes there are. Ever heard of running used vegetable oil (essentially biodiesel) in a diesel engine? The efficiency is about 80% of what regular diesel would have been, and it's pretty much considered recycling. And I believe emissions become cleaner as well. Only slight modification of the vegetable oil may be required (especially for tractor trailers, however most cars need little if anything changed)
Sadly crops are grown using synthetic fertilizers which are made from fossil fuels. Growing crops for fuel does not work and any attempt to do so will fail. Natural manure is not an option.

Fusion power and high capacity batteries made by non rare earth minerals is the only reasonable option, anything else is PR success/logic fail.
 
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Sadly crops are grown using synthetic fertilizers which are made from fossil fuels. Growing crops for fuel does not work and any attempt to do so will fail. Natural manure is not an option.

Fusion power and high capacity batteries made by non rare earth minerals is the only reasonable option, anything else is PR success/logic fail.
I see no reason we cannot make use of the vegetable oil twice. Once to cook our food, and a second time to drive our cars.

Admittedly, it's not the benefit that fusion would bring. But recycling the used veggie oils is currently available on a large scale, and cheap.
    
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Sadly crops are grown using synthetic fertilizers which are made from fossil fuels. Growing crops for fuel does not work and any attempt to do so will fail. Natural manure is not an option.

Fusion power and high capacity batteries made by non rare earth minerals is the only reasonable option, anything else is PR success/logic fail.
Are you serious? I can't imagine you are, as where I live natural fertilizer is a huge industry on it's own. There are also huge benefits from natural fertilizer as opposed to using synthetic. You can also put GMO's into play, which can increase the yield even further. Honestly, the true goal is to not have a need for synthetic fertilizers, a lot of farmers would say that.

I don't really care about the battery crap, as of now that's somewhat true. We can't sustain much off renewable resources yet, though I have faith we will.
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I was depressed by the lack of pictures in the source link, so I found some on my own.

these are of the wb-6 and 7, the predecessors to the wb-8 (who would have guessed?)






if these don't look like the future, I don't know what does. so much chrome...
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I was depressed by the lack of pictures in the source link, so I found some on my own.

these are of the wb-6 and 7, the predecessors to the wb-8 (who would have guessed?)






if these don't look like the future, I don't know what does. so much chrome...
and you're telling me that those things net a positive energy release when JET doesn't.
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At 2 meter+ diameter, according to this newest report it would be correct to say polywell dominates JET. The current machines to date aren't that size yet though.
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seriously... polywells are just a couple of small electromagnets (that don't even appear to be supercooled). What makes it any more effective than a tokamak?
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Tokamaks confine ions directly with magnetic fields, polywells confine electrons directly, which then form a somewhat complex negatively charged mirror for ions.

Ions have ridiculously more mass than electrons and therefore confining them directly is ridiculousy harder than electrons. Which has more mass, ions or electrons? That's the nutshell, oversimplified version.
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Tokamaks confine ions directly with magnetic fields, polywells confine electrons directly, which then form a somewhat complex negatively charged mirror for ions.

Ions have ridiculously more mass than electrons and therefore confining them directly is ridiculousy harder than electrons. Which has more mass, ions or electrons? That's the nutshell, oversimplified version.
what's the point of confining electrons? It's the nucleus that needs to fuse...
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