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Here's another overgeneralized answer: you drop in nucleus ions into this electron well you made with a polywells electromagnets, and it bounces around on the inside never touching the actual magnets. It loses energy very slowly because it's just swinging back and forth in there. Then you drop in a million or trillion more and they generally only collide with each other as they bounce around. If they are dropped at the correct energy they fuse when they collide.
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While a lot of people share this misconception, growing biofuels and then burning them does not result in a net increase in atmospheric CO2, since the carbon in these fuels is taken from the atmosphere. It's only when we burn hydrocarbons from non-renewable sources that it's an issue. For example, burning wood and oil adds CO2 to the atmosphere faster than photosynthesis removes it, whereas burning a biofuel can at most reach the same level as that being taken from the atmosphere.

However, you do have a good point if you consider the fact that the land used to grow crops would usually have removed more CO2 than it does once used for biofuel.
CO2 emissions should be the last thing on our minds, I thought this pseudoscience was done with... anyway, injecting CO2 into the atmosphere just may be the single greatest thing mankind has done for the environment. Albeit, burning fossil fuels does inject actual harmful pollutants into the atmosphere. It is a good idea to move to cleaner burning or alternative sources of energy. thorium reactors
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Fusion power enables light farms on which we could grow biodiesel and biogasoline at night, in the winter, whenever, however. Biodiesel and biogasoline fit into our current infrastructure and already solve the energy density problem.
We need to ditch fossil fuels instead of extending their use.

The biggest obstacles are cars and planes. Nobody is going to want to have to get a new car.

All car companies will HAVE to start making all plug-in hybrids that support quick charge.

Then eventually people wont freak out and when the electric infrastructure is there will welcome it with open arms (it being cheaper & all).

Planes, well that's a whole 'nother problem.
    
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We need to ditch fossil fuels instead of extending their use.

The biggest obstacles are cars and planes. Nobody is going to want to have to get a new car.

All car companies will HAVE to start making all plug-in hybrids that support quick charge.

Then eventually people wont freak out and when the electric infrastructure is there will welcome it with open arms (it being cheaper & all).

Planes, well that's a whole 'nother problem.
Where do most electrical companies get their power? Oh yeah, fossil fuels, or nuclear reactions.

Electricity from the plug is not the solution either.
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Where do most electrical companies get their power? Oh yeah, fossil fuels, or nuclear reactions.

Electricity is not the solution either.
Electricity is the most efficient way of energy we know.

The ways we generate it and use it are wasteing alot of potential.

Lets look at it we use up large amounts of coal to boil up alot of water to generate steam, this steam drives an turbine wich generates our electricity.

Now we use up this energy at our kitchen herd, and guess what it does it boils up water........ yes wow what a waste (i dont know the real ratio just an example) lets say we just burned 3 trees in our power plant and we only needed some pieces of wood to heat up our pot in real.

The same thing counts for nuclear, powerplants are old we basically just boil up water to generate our energy.

And what happens if u heat up stuff ? Right u lose the energy or transform it but the transformation proccess loses energy.

Our powerplants as we use em nowdays are inefficent.

Theres so much study going on we need to learn how to tap the basic power of matter, electricity is just electrons that move from atom to atom we just need to figure out a way how to tap that.

Without wasteing lots of that energy for heat.

Funny fact for computers we struggle to keep our Heat low while pushing up Voltages and stuff it generates alot of heat ...

And heat from electricity is wasted energy...

Think about it.
Edited by erniv2 - 5/3/11 at 9:05pm
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i bet eh oil companys will shut them down
 
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Electricity is the most efficient way of energy we know.

The ways we generate it and use it are wasteing alot of potential.

Lets look at it we use up large amounts of coal to boil up alot of water to generate steam, this steam drives an turbine wich generates our electricity.

Now we use up this energy at our kitchen herd, and guess what it does it boils up water........ yes wow what a waste (i dont know the real ratio just an example) lets say we just burned 3 trees in our power plant and we only needed some pieces of wood to heat up our pot in real.

The same thing counts for nuclear, powerplants are old we basically just boil up water to generate our energy.

And what happens if u heat up stuff ? Right u lose the energy or transform it but the transformation proccess loses energy.

Our powerplants as we use em nowdays are inefficent.

Theres so much study going on we need to learn how to tap the basic power of matter, electricity is just electrons that move from atom to atom we just need to figure out a way how to tap that.

Without wasteing lots of that energy for heat.

Funny fact for computers we struggle to keep our Heat low while pushing up Voltages and stuff it generates alot of heat ...

And heat from electricity is wasted energy...

Think about it.
Protip: learn how to spell if you want people to take you seriously.
Protip2: unless you have an alternative and superior suggestion, there is no point complaining about the current system. There are a lot smarter brains than yours working on the energy problem.
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seriously... polywells are just a couple of small electromagnets (that don't even appear to be supercooled). What makes it any more effective than a tokamak?
The version they are working on doesn't need that type of cooling. The future bigger version will incorporate a superconductor with a low temperature cooling system. At this moment in time (in the research) they don't need the added expense of a superconductor. They can do the math to see how a superconductor would benefit the results they are getting. They are hitting the contract targets and well on their way to building the bigger, expensive system that can produce positive net power.
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True, but then we still have the problem of CO2 emissions. Then again, with coal, oil, and natural gas power plants gone, we cutout more than 50% of emissions. So, baby steps.
Last I checked if we eliminated cows we'd do that.
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Where do most electrical companies get their power? Oh yeah, fossil fuels, or nuclear reactions.

Electricity is not the solution either.
No, electricity is the solution. The problem is how we're generating it.

There are other ways. There was an thread in here not too long ago talking about how a research team had accidentally found a way to claim almost 100% solar energy with a new solar cell technology.

Michio Kaku's said that if we ever hit 80 that solar could provide more power than we use on earth; right now. You could put it on your roof and live like an energy hog completely off the grid. power your car even.
    
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