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I am looking for the perfect balence of performance and silence.

Questions:
140mm fan with 140mm holes vs 140mm fan with 120mm holes vs 120mm fan ?
Best 120mm case fan ?
Best 140mm case fan ?
Best 120mm heatsink fan ?
Best 140mm heatsink fan ?
25mm vs 38mm fan ?

Requirements:
I am NOT looking for the ear drum bursting noise levels of Deltas and I am also not very fond of Noctua fans.

Scythe:
Gentle Typhoon [theres so many versions of it, help me choose ?]
Kaze Maru [is this fan loud ?]

Noiseblocker:
NB-BlackSilentPro [120/140mm]
NB-Multiframe S-Series [120mm]
NB-BlackSilentFan [120/140mm]

Thermalright:
TY-140

Sanyo Denki:
San Ace [theres so many versions of it, help me choose ?]

Yate Loon:
120mm [theres so many versions of it, help me choose ?]
140mm [theres so many versions of it, help me choose ?]
Edited by somebodysb2 - 5/1/11 at 1:00am
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If you want good static pressure, yet low noise, while producing good cfm. You really can't afford to overlook Yate Loon's D12SH-12's. They're not perfectly silent in comparison to the much lower rpm models you have listed. But for a 88cfm fan with good static pressure, it's very difficult to beat for heatsink/case/rad duty. Just make sure you buy them from Petra's or SVC. They're the only ones that carry the large motor variants consistently.

Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with the 140mm versions. So I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending them.
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 5/1/11 at 1:01am
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post #3 of 8
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If you want good static pressure, yet low noise, while producing good cfm. You really can't afford to overlook Yate Loon's D12SH-12's. They're not perfectly silent in comparison to the much lower rpm models you have listed. But for a 88cfm fan with good static pressure, it's very difficult to beat.

Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with the 140mm versions. So I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending them.
Whats static pressure ?
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Whats static pressure ?
It's an important measurement that determines the ability of a fan (or pump) to push (or pull) against resistance. For example, heatsinks or radiators with fins that are spaced closely together (like my Megahalems for instance). Require a high static pressure fan. Ehume has a great guide for fan performance on the Mega's that is very relevant to this discussion. I'll see if I can dig it up for you.

The GT's you were speaking of earlier have good static pressure also. However, the price difference doesn't justify the GT's imo. Yates are very, very good. Especially for the money.
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Easier to make a 2nd post to keep this neater.

The top ranked fans in this exhausting (pun intended) test session all have high static pressure. As you'll see, the Yates rank very highly...15th overall for performance with a heatsink that is known for performing best with very high static pressure. The few that are ranked over it, are much louder. I'd be hesitant to recommend most of those to persons concerned with noise. All credit for that review goes to Ehume.




This chart is from the 2nd set of statistics on the page.

http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...ans-112-a.html
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 5/1/11 at 1:28am
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop View Post
It's an important measurement that determines the ability of a fan (or pump) to push (or pull) against resistance. For example, heatsinks or radiators with fins that are spaced closely together (like my Megahalems for instance). Require a high static pressure fan. Ehume has a great guide for fan performance on the Mega's that is very relevant to this discussion. I'll see if I can dig it up for you.

The GT's you were speaking of earlier have good static pressure also. However, the price difference doesn't justify the GT's imo. Yates are very, very good. Especially for the money.
but how about kaze maru and TY-140? someone here on ocn said that they move more air than 120?
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but how about kaze maru and TY-140? someone here on ocn said that they move more air than 120?
Like I said earlier. I don't have any experience with the 140mm's unfortunately. I have alot of the 120mm fans available. Including the Mechatronics that topped the performance charts in the linked 120mm review.

That said, 140mm's do not move more air than 120mm high performance fans. Delta's (which I'm currently using on my Mega Shadow), San Aces, Mechatronics and such high rpm/pressure fans far exceed the performance capabilities of any 140mm on the market for computer usage. 140's are generally used for retaining higher cfm flow as the middle of the line 120mm's (think 80-100cfm), but remaining quiet.

Once you pull the restriction for quiet out of the equation, that entire situation changes drastically. 120x38 mm fans are the highest flowing fans available for computing usage. Topped out by a San Ace model with 250cfm plus.
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but how about kaze maru and TY-140? someone here on ocn said that they move more air than 120?
Here is about how the fan size work's. Smaller fans have to spin faster to make decent flow, larger fans can move more air at lower RPMS.
120MMx25mm wide fan's are the current "standerd" size fan, with 120's you get more choice than any other size(so you can be picky).
140x25mm fans make less noise than 120's for the most part and move good amounts of air with nill noise..the down side is there arnt a lot of good 140mm fans, and one of the best 140's(The Ty-140) is a goofy sized fan lol(its 160mmx140mmx25mm), so you dont get much choice. Same thing with larger fans, just with less choice.

Right now the rage is between two fans for the Static Pressure/CFM/DBA war. Scythe Gental Typhoons. becouse they come in tons of diffrent CFM/DBA combos and have good static pressure. and the TY-140's becouse they make almost no noise and move some decent air, pretty cheap right now too. Yate loons is also another good one to look at..there are other fans but these seem to be the most common.

I'm a San Ace 1011 with AP-30 person myself good luck!
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