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I have a Corsair 800D. After extensive research on WC, there seem to be a heck ton of options for this case. I have many questions that I hope some of you could answer.


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My GPUs put out about 600W MAX heat under full load. Card 1 usually hit 88C underload load. Second card is much cooler which is around 50-60C. My ambient during the day with AC off can hit 31C. In the evening it is around 28C. I am trying to acquire some AP-15 but they are mostly out of stock here. I may run blademasters at low speed until AP-15 comes in. My cpu is only a lowly 435 unlocked and clocked at 3.5ghz (H50 blademasters push pull). I will be upgrading the rig soon. Given these information, I'd imagine I need some pretty serious rad or fans to see real benefit from WC. I'm opting for RX clearly because I don't want to deal with fan noise. I hope this info would help you advice me on what to do. I actually don't mind 2 x RX120 and 1 x RX480 (3 fans only) if my case can accommodate all these without obstructing anything. Providing that I'd actually see benefit going this route.

GPU cooling:
- I have 2 x 6970 2gb. The main card runs really hot at around 88-90C under load.
- I have decided to go with EK Acetal + Nickel block.

Question:
Is it necessary to get the backplate? Would it help to avoid (in anyway) the card from getting fried in case of minor leak from the fittings/rad? Does it help in OC performance or is the plate mainly for aesthetic purpose?

CPU cooling:
- Going with EK Acetal + Nickel block.
- Didn't want to go with full nickel as I don't want to deal with finger print, stain, corrosion, and etc on the nickel surface.

Pump:
- DDC 3.2 + XSPC Pom top

Rads:
Ok this is actually the biggest problem for me. First of all, I don't want to mod the casing. Initially I'd decided to go:
- Option 1: 1 x RX360 up top, 1 x MCR120 at rear, 1 x RX120 at bottom
- Option 2: 1 x RX360 up top, 1 x RX120 at rear, 1 x RX120 at bottom
- Option 3: 1 x RX480 up top (3 fans only), 1 x RX120 at bottom
- Option 4: 1 x RX360 up top, 1 x RX120 at bottom

Questions:
- I've seen lots of builds, I think the people who opted not to put a rad at rear is mainly because the rad may block the chipset block. Am I correct about this?
- I recently saw someone use an RX480 up top, but instead of installing 4 fans and cutting a hole up top, he simply installed 3 fans on the rad. One part of the rad is not being fan cooled. I could go with this option and omit the rear radiator. Saving RM30-40. I could still use a RX120 at the bottom. Would I see any benefit going this way, vs option 2 and 4? Also, is it better to stick to 360mm rad since not many casing support 480mm rad?

Reservoir:
- I'm leaning towards Bitspower Tank Z 150
- I'm also considering IandH 175, as well as Tank Z 250, and EK advanced 150/250

Questions:
- I intend to run a T line somewhere at the bottom radiator, or at the bottom of the res to drain the liquid. I also intend to place the pump right below the res. Should I go with 150/250 Res? I'm leaning towards 150 because it is probably easier to work with. I think 250 may have issue with e-atx board since there's really only one place where I can put the 250 res.
- I'm also leaning towards bitspower res as I've been reading that EK res has a higher tendency to leak. Some pictures also suggest that the build quality isn't as good. I hardly see complaints about tank Z leaking.

Tubing:
- Don't know what to go with. I'm thinking black tube as they don't haze and I don't have to deal with maintenance biggrin.gif Alternatively I could go clear tube and black/red dye. If I go with black tube, I can mix a small amount of clear tube at certain areas to show the red liquid.

Fittings:
- All bitspower matte black compression fittings

There you have it, I'm picking up most of these stuff this coming week. My biggest concern is the radiators. I don't know what configuration to go with.
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It's all personal preferance but here is my list:
1. 360 rad top & 240 rad botton
2. EK nicel/acetal gpu blocks
3. Swifteck apogee GT cpu block
4. 1/2 id x 3/4 od Tygon clear tubing
5. Bitspower silver compression fittings.
6. NO ADDITIVES OR DYE IN YOUR WATER, DISTILLED WATER ONLY.
7. Swiftech mcp655b pump
8. Waiting for a DD monsoon dual bay res :}
9. Parallel set up on gpu blocks.

While folding my temp is 47c on my loop.


Edited by SlideRulz - 5/1/11 at 9:21am
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post #3 of 16
GPU cooling:
Good choice.

Question:
Not necessary at all. Purely for aesthetics.

CPU cooling:
Good choice of block. Make sure it's the Supreme HF.

Pump:
Also a good choice.

Rads:
I'd go for option 3. You'd have to mod the top of the case but this is easily done with a dremel - the 800D is a monster, there's plenty of room up there. It looks awesome when people have radiators at the bottom.

However, you may find that a single RX480 will cool your loop without the need for a second radiator.

Questions:
Well... If you were going to only use 3 fans, why not just get an RX360? It's kind of like buying a bike with one wheel.

Reservoir:
It's up to you really. A reservoir is a reservoir. The EK Multi Res v2 is nice.

Questions:
- You can go with any size you want. Once the water is in your loop, the reservoir serves little purpose as long as it's full. It just takes more time to fill with a smaller reservoir.

Tubing:
- I went white. It's personal preference.

Fittings:
- All bitspower matte black compression fittings

Tried to sum it up briefly for you. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me, I own an 800D.
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post #4 of 16
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Thanks for the advice folks.

If I were to keep only distilled water in the loop, I definitely would go black tubing.

Actually in my situation it'd be more like a tricycle vs a car

The reason why I wouldn't install 4 fans is because I didn't want to cut holes in the casing. After all, even if I were to install the 4th fan (which would be inside of the ODD bays), there wouldn't be a blow hole for the air to go out. Also, if I were to start cutting up the casing, I would run an RX480 up top and an RX240 down bottom. I don't want to cut the casing up.

My question is whether having an RX480 (with 3 fans) would cool any better than an RX360 (with 3 fans). I don't know if the extra surface which is not being cooled at all would make any difference in temperature. Also whether the difference is worth it for the premium of the RX480. I wouldn't bother installing the RX480 with 3 fans if it only cools 1-2C better than an RX360 with 3 fans.

Another concern of mine is the rear rad. I hardly if ever seen more than 2 rigs with a 120mm rad in the 800d. I believe an MCR320 would fit without obstructing chipset block inlet, but I'm unsure about putting an RX120 at the back. I want to keep the fan inside of the case as well. If I were to go with the MCR120 and if it doesn't obstruct the chipset block, I could do a push pull and may actually get the same performance as an RX120. I am not using any chipset block yet, just thinking about my future board which I definitely will WC everything on the board.
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Very interesting. Only downside is that it's copper and would oxidize a lot faster than nickel and it may be difficult for me to find the block as compared to EK. Maybe applying a hint of oil over the copper would help.
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If you want another rad setup option, I've mounted a 360 sr1 on top, a 120 stealth on the back and a 140 sr1 on the bottom


the 800D is a friggin small case lol
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Very interesting. Only downside is that it's copper and would oxidize a lot faster than nickel and it may be difficult for me to find the block as compared to EK. Maybe applying a hint of oil over the copper would help.
It won't oxidize if don't have aluminum in the loop.
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Very nice build. It appears that a slim 120mm rad would not obstruct the chipset inlet. Do you thing I could get away with an RX360 if I were to use a 90degree rotary? It would be double the thickness of your rad. Very tight cable clearance on the bottom 120mm rad. Also, what res is that? I've seen it a couple of times but couldn't figure out what it is.
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Hey btw, would you be able to do a push pull on the 140mm with the two stock corsair 140mm fans? Maybe I can drop a 140mm down there too
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