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How's the MSI Twin Frozr II GTX 570?

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Is that the card to go with if I've decided on getting a GTX 570?

Btw, this upgrade is because I'm giving my GTX 470 to my brother.

Thanks.
post #2 of 17
All 570s, including the TFII, cards are reference cards. they are good solid card, but they have alot of problems when you overclock them or overvolt the cards.
If you will not oc, get the TFII, its silent and cool. If you want to oc i suggest going for the twin frozer III power edition, it has more phases and can handle higher ocs.

Edit: Also asus DCII are non-reference and are great but they are tripple slot cards.
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Won't be OCing, so I guess I'll go with the Twin Frozr II then.
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I own one and it keeps HELLER cool just as long as your case has good ventilation cause it does drop a ton of heat into your case. I never go above 62c and thats @ 900 core/ 2300 memory @ 1.025v. Was able to hit 850mhz without a voltage increase so really just overclock it at stock voltage so that way you dont have to worry about much problems. And my vid for the card is 0.950v which is apparently good, but it wont go any higher without diminishing returns.
 
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post #5 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by terraprime;13339457 
I own one and it keeps HELLER cool just as long as your case has good ventilation cause it does drop a ton of heat into your case. I never go above 62c and thats @ 900 core/ 2300 memory @ 1.025v. Was able to hit 850mhz without a voltage increase so really just overclock it at stock voltage so that way you dont have to worry about much problems. And my vid for the card is 0.950v which is apparently good, but it wont go any higher without diminishing returns.

Further to the above advice, I would suggest getting a GTX570 with reference cooling because the GTX570 Twin Frozr + Storm Scout = a big thermal management challenge/headache:-

a. The card dumps heat bi-directionally. Dumping heat to the rear is no problem at all. But half of the heat is exhausted out of the card via the card's front.

b. Now, the length of the MSI GTX570 Twin Frozr is 268mm (10.55'') and the max length of card accommodated by the Storm Scout is 10.5-10.6'', this means a very tight fit. This implies the card's front will literally touch the HDD cage. The hot air exhausted is blowing onto any HDD in the cage. Storm Scout is just too small a cage, relatively speaking.

c. As such, the card's front is also so close to the Scout's front intake fan that hot air exhausted will run against the incoming fresh air.

As the card will not be overclocked, I would advise choosing a GTX570 with the traditional cooling design (ie front intake fan + rear exhaust).
post #6 of 17
I forgot about the length, as I had to angle my card to get it into my case and its got tons of room. And it does hang like maybe 2 inch over the width of my ATX mobo. Thankfully they made the power connectors top mounted instead of side mounted.

I would also second getting a card that would exhaust all the heat out the back of he case so thermal issues wont arise.
 
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post #7 of 17
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Oh, I forgot to mention I'll be using it in a NZXT Phantom case.

Would that be a problem?

I'm also gonna use an H70 for the CPU if that matters.
post #8 of 17
Man its such an amazing card. Full load mine still hasn't gotten over 60C overclocked to 900mhz smile.gif
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post #9 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by AverageGai;13346023 
Oh, I forgot to mention I'll be using it in a NZXT Phantom case.

Would that be a problem?

I'm also gonna use an H70 for the CPU if that matters.

If you use the NZXT Phantom instead of using the Storm Scout, then it is quite do-able.

I suggest you set up like: (see pic below)
1. H70's rad/fan on case top, exhausting out
2. Install another fan next to it for exhausting hot air coming out from card's front (red arrows inside case)
3. Rear case fan to be spinned in low rpm, thus ensuring no hot air from graphic card's external exhaust can be sucked into the case (green arrows outside case)
4. Side panel's fans supply fresh air to the H70 and to the cards (green arrows inside case)
post #10 of 17
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How did you manage to mount the H70 rad at the top?
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