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I am thinking about getting the new Rampage III Extreme Black Edition mainly because it's hell of a nice board with the new Marvell 9182 chip.

I've got some concerns though, it has been a couple of years since I touched ASUS boards so here goes my questions:

* How good of overclock capabilities will I get out from this board?
* Are there any know issues with the latest ASUS boards regarding OC?

And other than this, do you guys know if I can max my Vertex 3 drive on this board? I mean, can this new Marvell chip deliver 550/500 MB /s R/W ?
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Overclocking depends on your chip.
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The R3BE, along with the gigabyte X58-OC are currently the best motherboards for overclocking.

How much you will get out of it over the normal R3E, depends on your chip.
On air or water, you will easily max out your CPU even on lower motherboards. So these will not make your CPU overclock that much of a difference.

Also to max your vertex3, currently, you need either one of the newer motherboards (P67), or use a raid card.
Marvell chips aren't the best, and they are running on a shared PCIE-x1, which will limit.
But even so, every day usage will not even be close to maxing out the vertex3.
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Overclocking depends on your chip.
I know, I think you missunderstood the question then. I want to know how good that board is when overclocking, not how much further I can go when OC:ing, I understand that this is motherboard independent.

Some motherboards make it easier and some make it less easy to OC.
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I know, I think you missunderstood the question then. I want to know how good that board is when overclocking, not how much further I can go when OC:ing, I understand that this is motherboard independent.

Some motherboards make it easier and some make it less easy to OC.
Overclocing is the same as the normal R3E.

Some of its components and power phases are a bit upgraded from the normal version.
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The R3BE, along with the gigabyte X58-OC are currently the best motherboards for overclocking.

How much you will get out of it over the normal R3E, depends on your chip.
On air or water, you will easily max out your CPU even on lower motherboards. So these will not make your CPU overclock that much of a difference.

Also to max your vertex3, currently, you need either one of the newer motherboards (P67), or use a raid card.
Marvell chips aren't the best, and they are running on a shared PCIE-x1, which will limit.
But even so, every day usage will not even be close to maxing out the vertex3.
Ok so what might be the ideal case here? To get the Rampage III Extreme + LSI 9211 instead of the Black Edition?

I thought that the new Marvell Chip ( 9182 _not_ the old 9128 ) ran on a PCIE-2x lane?

But you are telling me that I am not really going to notice a difference between a controller card like LSI 9211 and running on the new Marvell chip in a day to day usage?
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From my experience, the marvell chips where never that good.
A good PCIE card can easily bring better results.

The "old" 9128 was initially a bit bad because it came with bad firmware, which can be updated to give much better results, but still, it wasn't that good.
From what I have seen, the 9182 is better, but even tho, reviews I have seen say its a little lacking behind.

A dedicated raid card is several times better regarding quality and speed over on-board.

If you aren't going to use raid setups, you won't see that much of a difference, as long as you also update the bios on the marvell chip.

Look, I'm not saying the R3BE isn't bad. Its a great motherboard.

But if you want to save some money, get the normal R3E. Performance single SSD as OS wise, the difference isn't going to be noticeable.
Benchmarks maybe, a bit, but not every day usage.

But if you can afford it, get the R3BE, which also has the audio card (if it matters to you), and a few extra upgrades for more stable OC over time.

I would get the R3BE if I could get it where I live without spending almost twice the price of the R3E, and needed to get a new motherboard at this moment.

I'm just saying that if just a decent OC and a single SSD drive, the difference between the two motherboards, isn't worth the money if you wish to save a bit.
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The price difference here is 80 USD, not that much tbh. I love clean and nice sound!

So spending another 80 USD and getting a better marvell chip, more oc friendly and a non-integrated audio/lan. I just hope that this marvell chip ( sata wise ) will perform at least as good as SATA-II, the case with my previous motherboard was that I got ~180MB / s read on SATA-III and 270MB / s on SATA-II. I do at least want to get up to 400MB / s read/write with my vertex 3!!

And I guess that is a bit easier on the Rampage III Extreme Black Edition.

Overclocking-wise, is it much different from overclocking on a MSI X58A-GD65? Is it "easier" / "better"? Are there any tools that will help me out more?

Another nice thing about the Black Edition is that it was recently released, so it has probably had a lot of "fixes" to it. And by the way, I am not going to use any raid setup, it's a single Vertex 3 120GB drive as system drive for me that is used to run:

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Asus OCing is different from gigabyte.
The terms are a bit different.
I'm not sure if its easier to harder.

I didn't have any problems OCing with the UD9 (same bios menus as most gigabyte boards), nor with the asus. Its just a personal choice on what is "easier".
Both have everything you need.

Main difference tho is that asus first bios screen is the OCing screen, while in the gigabyte, you need to go into a couple of menus to get there each time.
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