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post #41 of 135
Yup. If it is around $500, their target audience (extreme overclockers looking for a board with all the nonsense stripped out to give it great performance at a budget price) will surely have been missed. I just hope it doesn't stop them from trying again. I love the board and I love the idea, but it seems like the execution may be falling through.

However, this is all speculation until the board actually releases.
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post #42 of 135
it definitely wont be that much./ I think ppl will be surprised when the retail price is listed. In teh US less than 400 for sure.
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Also Sin has listed several structural modifications and enhancments of the OC edition which will not only result in a more efficient and stable overclock but also GPU overclock.
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How and what exact features and structural enhancements of the OC could aid me in achieving this overclock more efficient,more stable and more durable than the UD7 which does not have them.

Please list the improvements/modifications and explain exactly what they will do to make this overclock more efficient than with the UD7 which does not posess them.
what the hell is a structural enhancement?
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what the hell is a structural enhancement?


Imagine a building.

It has 5 floors, 5 flights of stairs,50 windows and a roof.

Now imagine a revision 2.0 of this building.

This one has been updated with an elevator,the stairs have been modified with round edges and rails to hold on , the Windows have been revisioned with new ledges.

Now these updates have been of structural nature since the core components of the building determining its physical nature and "ability" have been altered/changed.

These changes can be considered structural enhancements.
If the house on the other hand had only been updated with new paint it could not be considered a structural enhancement.

Get it?
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power delivery dude, you gotta understand power delivery means a lot in an OC, if not everything. other than that only the IOH quality and circuit impedance has an affect. VRM is the most important part other than that.
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power delivery dude, you gotta understand power delivery means a lot in an OC, if not everything. other than that only the IOH quality and circuit impedance has an affect. VRM is the most important part other than that.
IOH means nothing because Northbridge means nothing.
Power delivery has maybe 20% effect.

The most important thing is still your chip and the oc settings you choose.
I don´t need 1500 Watt ready power line lol?

They exeggerate a little to advertise the x58A-OC better which is no problem actually because people who know what it means to overclock professionally will also know how much of an effect the new features will really result in.

For me personally it won´t make that much of a difference if I get the OC or UD7 because I don´t wanna hit more than 4.5-4.7 and the technology, and structural latency of the UD7 is still enough to provide optimal conditions for such an overclock.

The OC is only required for people who like to play around with the last tiny bit of oc.

A normal I7 950 overclock does not require such a board because the efficiency of the oc will not even be influnced by the board to an extent of 10-11% which is redundant.

That information was provided by the head of Gigabyte coorporation in the headquaters.
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IOH means a lot with X58 if pushing BCLK. It's the difference between QPI slowmode and not at over 220 BCLK.
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IOH means a lot with X58 if pushing BCLK. It's the difference between QPI slowmode and not at over 220 BCLK.
A BCLK over 220 is stupid anyway for a 24/7 setup at least.
If your QPI gets too high your graphics performance is being throttled believe me I had this problem.
Also your RAM will show instabilities.

Any X58 Board tops at 220 BCLK.
The new OC is said to hit 300 which is useless in my oppinion because you won´t need it anyway.
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post #49 of 135
dude not many good OCing boards top at 220blck.

Power delivery is 80% man, and no its not 1500watts, their numbers are way over exaggerated and that is why i didn't use them in my review. you gotta go part by part and find their spec on every board and then compare. Don't use marketing at the same time.

For extreme OCing many processors will pull from 300-500watts full load and that voltage needs to be stable as it comes.
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dude not many good OCing boards top at 220blck.

Power delivery is 80% man, and no its not 1500watts, their numbers are way over exaggerated and that is why i didn't use them in my review. you gotta go part by part and find their spec on every board and then compare. Don't use marketing at the same time.

For extreme OCing many processors will pull from 300-500watts full load and that voltage needs to be stable as it comes.

My 4.1 GHZ with 1.21Vcore stable get 90Watts TDP at Idle and 120-130 Watts at 100% full load.

What you said is only partially true.
Those extreme conditions only appear to the absolute top of the top absolute hard ass overclockers in the world.
I am sure not even hicookie sees them to often.
And that is exactly how the advertisement for the OC works.
Average overclockers will not see an advantage with the new OC edition.
You can have a VRM and power delivary improvment all you want hitting 4.6 GHZ still won´t be influenced in its efficiency or durability by it.
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