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here get this

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...741&CatId=4070


EDIT: and they can overclock http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1198547
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My 4.1 GHZ with 1.21Vcore stable get 90Watts TDP at Idle and 120-130 Watts at 100% full load.

What you said is only partially true.
Those extreme conditions only appear to the absolute top of the top absolute hard ass overclockers in the world.
I am sure not even hicookie sees them to often.
And that is exactly how the advertisement for the OC works.
Average overclockers will not see an advantage with the new OC edition.
You can have a VRM and power delivary improvment all you want hitting 4.6 GHZ still won´t be influenced in its efficiency or durability by it.
What pic did you upload?!? It's take forever to download!
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What pic did you upload?!? It's take forever to download!
I am sorry it seems like imagebanana is down or very slow right now that is why the screen takes so long to load.

But the screen shows CPU Z ....Vcore 1.21 and 4.1 GHZ also Cinebench 11.5 and CPU 100% load at 130 Watt TDP.

Just to show that a normally overclocked CPU does not require the previously stated power.
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A BCLK over 220 is stupid anyway for a 24/7 setup at least.
If your QPI gets too high your graphics performance is being throttled believe me I had this problem.
Also your RAM will show instabilities.

Any X58 Board tops at 220 BCLK.
The new OC is said to hit 300 which is useless in my oppinion because you won´t need it anyway.
If your QPI gets too high on a mediocre IOH, then your graphics performance is throttled. If the board has a good IOH, then you can go up to ~230+ without bad performance.

The new OC is not said to hit 300. In fact, the highest BCLK I've seen with it yet was 251, a far cry from the 266 I hit on my RIIIE and the current 270 record set with an RIIIE.

The highest BCLK you can get stable with reasonable volts, as long as your memory is on a strong divider, is perfect for a system.


I don't know where you're getting your information, but a good amount of it is just totally wrong.
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I am sorry it seems like imagebanana is down or very slow right now that is why the screen takes so long to load.

But the screen shows CPU Z ....Vcore 1.21 and 4.1 GHZ also Cinebench 11.5 and CPU 100% load at 130 Watt TDP.

Just to show that a normally overclocked CPU does not require the previously stated power.
I haven't seen a 300-500 watt CPU draw yet. I know on LN2, you can draw a lot more, but not that much more.

Anyway, from what I see, the X58-OC board is designed for peeps running extreme LN2 runs or cooling, since they show insulating the motherboard. I have a UD7 Rev 1 board on the way now and like the amount of power phases used. Its priced a lot better than the X58-OC board as well.
     
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I haven't seen a 300-500 watt CPU draw yet. I know on LN2, you can draw a lot more, but not that much more.

Anyway, from what I see, the X58-OC board is designed for peeps running extreme LN2 runs or cooling, since they show insulating the motherboard. I have a UD7 Rev 1 board on the way now and like the amount of power phases used. Its priced a lot better than the X58-OC board as well.
Yeah I will probably get the UD7 too.
All PCI slots are x16 and if all four are used then 3 can power x16.

The Gigabyte X58A-UD7 is the absolute best mother board with all the features an allround board needs.
It suits extreme overclockers and still has all the features you normally need.
It is the absolute supreme class before UD9 and SR2.

Maybe in terms of 5-7% more overclock efficiency the x58OC is better but counted the overall performance and features the UD7 is unbeatable.

I will get it too I think
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The UD7 cannot run three slots at x16. Just because they are wires that way does not mean they don't drop down to x16/x8/x8. It does not have an NF200, which would be required to do x16/x16/x16.

My Rampage III Extreme has all four slots electrically wired for x16. Does that mean it can do 4-way SLI? No! It lacks the NF200s necessary to do that.

You really don't understand this, do you?

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2 x PCI Express x16 slots, running at x16 (PCIEX16_1/PCIEX16_2)

(Note: For optimum performance, if only one PCI Express graphics card is to be installed, be sure to install it in the PCIEX16_1 slot; if you are installing two PCI Express graphics cards, it is recommended that you install them in the PCIEX16_1 and PCIEX16_2 slots)

2 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x8 (PCIEX8_1/PCIEX8_2)

(Note: The PCIEX8_1 and PCIEX8_2 slots share bandwidth with the PCIEX16_1 and PCIEX16_2 slots espectively. When PCIEX8_1 is populated with an expansion card, the PCIEX16_1 slot will operate at up to x8 mode; when PCIEX8_2 is populated with an expansion card, the PC IEX16_2 slot will operate at up to x8 mode)
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The UD7 cannot run three slots at x16. Just because they are wires that way does not mean they don't drop down to x16/x8/x8. It does not have an NF200, which would be required to do x16/x16/x16.

My Rampage III Extreme has all four slots electrically wired for x16. Does that mean it can do 4-way SLI? No! It lacks the NF200s necessary to do that.

You really don't understand this, do you?

Directly from Newegg since you find it so hard to believe Sin or me:
This is correct. If you use slot 1 & 3 only, you get x16 & x16. If you use slot 2 and/or 4, it splits the PCIe lanes to x8 each for 1/2 slots and 3/4 slots rspectively, so you have only x8 four all four slots if they are used. I believe the UD9 board has the NF200 chip to add 16 more lanes, then you can run 3 PCIe x16 slots, but don't quote on that. I have to check again to make sure. For four x16 slots, you need two NF200 chips. That's what Asus did with the extender add-on board for the Rampage board to run four 580 video cards at x16. This is way too much money to spend IMO.
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This is correct. If you use slot 1 & 3 only, you get x16 & x16. If you use slot 2 and/or 4, it splits the PCIe lanes to x8 each for 1/2 slots and 3/4 slots rspectively, so you have only x8 four all four slots if they are used. I believe the UD9 board has the NF200 chip to add 16 more lanes, then you can run 3 PCIe x16 slots, but don't quote on that. I have to check again to make sure. For four x16 slots, you need two NF200 chips. That's what Asus did with the extender add-on board for the Rampage board to run four 580 video cards at x16. This is way too much money to spend IMO.
Actually, it looks like the UD9 has 2 NF200 chips for full 4 slot PCIe x16 capability.
     
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For a sli setup with cards on air I would get the x58-OC over the ud7 just for the spacing.
The x16 slots are right next to each other on the ud7, no space for the top card to breathe, & you can't even put 1 card in the top slot & 1 card in the bottom slot for x16 + x8, it won't recognize a card in the bottom slot unless all 3 are filled.
The OC has a slot in between the x16 slots for breathing room.
    
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