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well I wanted to buy it when it was sale for 5$ but in the end I forgot ... (wanted it for the benchmark that comes with the steam update...)

and also their is no law enforcement so why should I bother buying a game ... it doesnt even have a multiplayer lol

anyway most of my games I have I bought xD
So then would you steal a game from an actual brick and mortar store? It's the same thing, except the only difference is that you stole it via the internet.
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So then would you steal a game from an actual brick and mortar store? It's the same thing, except the only difference is that you stole it via the internet.
Morally-speaking, yes.

Legally, though, it's actually not.

It's not actually illegal to torrent software for your own use. What it is, is copyright infringement, and you can be sued for doing so by the publisher.

Why do you think you always here about the RIAA suing people who share music, instead of hearing about them being arrested?

It becomes only becomes illegal when you profit by selling/distributing software (or music or movies or whatnot) that you haven't properly bought the rights to distribute.

At least in the USA that's how the law is.
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I don't get it.

So I can download software and games for free for my own use and it's perfectly ok, but I can't steal it off a store's shelf for the same purpose? To me, that's exactly the same thing.
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I don't get it.

So I can download software and games for free for my own use and it's perfectly ok, but I can't steal it off a store's shelf for the same purpose? To me, that's exactly the same thing.
Laws are laws. Get used to it.

Plus you don't own the software and games when you purchase them. You are granted a license to use the software and games. That is different from actually owning the game.
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Laws are laws. Get used to it.
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Morally-speaking, yes.

Legally, though, it's actually not.

It's not actually illegal to torrent software for your own use. What it is, is copyright infringement, and you can be sued for doing so by the publisher.

Why do you think you always here about the RIAA suing people who share music, instead of hearing about them being arrested?

It becomes only becomes illegal when you profit by selling/distributing software (or music or movies or whatnot) that you haven't properly bought the rights to distribute.

At least in the USA that's how the law is.
actually i'm going to be working in this field soon and currently there's a dollar limit until it becomes illegal.

for instance if you cheat a company out of a million dollars then you go to big boy jail...less than that and you're okay...

however, lets say you torrent 500 movies, and each movie is worth say 20 bucks, and you upload those same movies to about 60 people each per day for about 10 days (like normal torrenting really occurs)

60 people x 10 days x 500 movies x 20 bucks = 6,000,000

^that's how much you've been cheating companies out of in a matter of ten days if you're a heavy torredo traffic person...

granted most people do that in a period of a couple months...so yeah, laws are very real

and so is big boy jail (aka the fed pen)
    
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Don't you have to prove those people who torrent the files would have otherwise purchased the products?

Your honor I believe its beyond a reasonable doubt to conclude these people have almost no purchase history and if they did not acquire the item in such a manner they would not have acquired it at all. Thus the plaintiff has no grounds for these charges.



Also to Cables, its different if you steal it from a store because if you torrent you're just getting it from a "friend" which is not illegal. However if you steal it from a store, such as Wal-Mart, you are stealing a product from Wal-Mart because they actually purchased the item and they are not letting you borrow it.
    
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Don't you have to prove those people who torrent the files would have otherwise purchased the products?

Your honor I believe its beyond a reasonable doubt to conclude these people have almost no purchase history and if they did not acquire the item in such a manner they would not have acquired it at all. Thus the plaintiff has no grounds for these charges.



Also to Cables, its different if you steal it from a store because if you torrent you're just getting it from a "friend" which is not illegal. However if you steal it from a store, such as Wal-Mart, you are stealing a product from Wal-Mart because they actually purchased the item and they are not letting you borrow it.
So if I made a really awesome game and sold it to one person, then how much money would I make if that one person distributed it to the rest of the world for free? This imaginary person in my example is helping the world steal my product.
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Don't you have to prove those people who torrent the files would have otherwise purchased the products?

Your honor I believe its beyond a reasonable doubt to conclude these people have almost no purchase history and if they did not acquire the item in such a manner they would not have acquired it at all. Thus the plaintiff has no grounds for these charges.



Also to Cables, its different if you steal it from a store because if you torrent you're just getting it from a "friend" which is not illegal. However if you steal it from a store, such as Wal-Mart, you are stealing a product from Wal-Mart because they actually purchased the item and they are not letting you borrow it.
just because top gear isn't shown here in the US doesn't mean we are free to download it like crazy...there are always ways of getting media in a different manner. if you honestly bought it but need an e copy then email the company you bought it from with your key and in a lot of cases they will give you a downloader or the file itself...

also cyber laws are very different and hand wavy so in most cases it's easy to charge someone with a lot of things as long as you can track their MAC address...which is also very easy to do...
    
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