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post #1 of 11
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Im on an oem box (i know, not much i can do with the bios being locked and all) but i traded my xbox 360 for a evga gtx 570 (in love). So now im guessing that this processor is my main bottle neck. I remember hearing about some software that can over clock the cpu a little instead of going to the bios.

I guess im just trying to get some recomendations on the ideas i have for my next upgrade. Current box is a Emachines ET1331G-03W (235e at 2.7 ghz, 6gb ddr2 and gtx 570). The benchmarks run amazing, but as soon as i start a game the fps are kinda low, i have to run the games on low detail to keep above 30 fps (bfbc2, gta iv , l4d2).

I am going to make a trip to compusa this weekend, but im debating what i should do.

My first plan to save money was get a new amd mobo with am3 support and easily overclocks. Throw this 235e in there, overclock it and switch to ddr3 ram. (about $200 depending if i get a budget board or not, and how much ram i buy.) But then id need a new case.

Well i already need a new case since i had to take the HDD enclosure out so the card would fit in.


Just lookin for some ideas.

p.s hope i put this in the right place
post #2 of 11
You could try AMD Overdrive.

What cooling does the CPU have?
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
Its not the stock cooler (even though the stock cooler did its job great, this cpu never gets hot), I got this cooler master with 3 heat pipes and fins. Was on sale at comp usa. Not too high end, but i think it will suffice for an overclock.

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post #4 of 11
Your processor is moderately powerful, and an OC would certainly boost performance. I had an eMachine, and although most BIOS options were locked, I was allowed to change the BUS speed and Vcore. If you don't have these options you will need a new board. If upgrading you will most likely want an ATX size board, which will not fit in your case. You will also want a roomier case with more ventilation and room for an aftermarket cooler.

Best thing to do is research all the motherboards that are compatible with your CPU. Then browse some forums and see which models others have had success overclocking with. I bought my used P5B Deluxe on eBay for about 50 bucks! It's not brand new technology, but it certainly gives performance. Some may scoff at buying used equipment, but I was able to get a high end used board for the same price as a new entry level board.

Also, I would not suggest shopping at best buy/comp usa. The selection is very limited and you will pay significantly more. I shop mostly at Newegg, Amazon, eBay, TigerDirect, etc... Best Buy will charge $22 dollars for a SATA cable!!! Ripoff.
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post #5 of 11
Yeah that heatsink will do a fine job.
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Hah, i would never shop at best buy. But comp did have some pretty good prices on some things. The cooler was on sale, from $30 to $9, so that was a steal. The only thing about shopping with new egg is the shipping, i am a super impatient person.

Im also considering switching to an intel board, since im hearing amd processors dont work well with nvidia cards all the time. I just dont want to dish out the money for a whole new processor.

Im impressed with the card, but after burner is showing that it never reaches 100% load. So something is bottlenecking. I wish amd could support sli!
post #7 of 11
Newegg has a trial "Shoprunner" membership, which gives free 2 day shipping. It's kinda like Amazon Prime.
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post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by SlzzyDzzy;13342203 
Hah, i would never shop at best buy. But comp did have some pretty good prices on some things. The cooler was on sale, from $30 to $9, so that was a steal. The only thing about shopping with new egg is the shipping, i am a super impatient person.

Im also considering switching to an intel board, since im hearing amd processors dont work well with nvidia cards all the time. I just dont want to dish out the money for a whole new processor.

Im impressed with the card, but after burner is showing that it never reaches 100% load. So something is bottlenecking. I wish amd could support sli!

AMD CPU's work fine with Nvidia GPU's. If you think about it, if Nvidia did do something to stop them working right on AMD systems, they would be stopping a large chunk of people buying their hardware.

Your CPU's just slow, thats all. Overclock it with AMD Overdrive.
post #9 of 11
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AMD overdrive only works on 7 series chipsets =[
post #10 of 11
Clockgen

SoftFSB

These two are great programs(but will require you to locate your PLL which is on your motherboard)

Or you can modify your Bios and see what options you can unlock or unhidden_ I was really into that for a few years(just because I didn't know how to build my own computers) I had a lot of retail computers that I usually buy from Best buy or what not and after a while I got use to modifying AMI/Pheonix and some Award bios to unlock as many features as possible_ Sometimes even enabling overclocking features =]

A great website I suggest is www.bios-mods.com, I no longer modify custom bios anymore its just too time consuming** They say you couldn't overclock Laptops, well I modify a laptop bios to enable a few overclocking goodies

Heres an example(This is my own work)
Original Bios
Orginal.png

Modified Bios unlocking a few features*
BIOS22.png

This was on my old HP DV67 laptop_ Oh all the fun you can do with Hex Editor and a few other programs =]

Of course you always run the risk of bricking your motherboard if its a bad flash**

But aside from that, I recommend SoftFSB(They got a free version and Shareware version) You can set it up to where upon bootup it raises your bus speed for you automatically but I've always had issues with Software overclocking as it sometimes freezes the PC requiring a restart_ Software overclocking is just unreliable_

I suggest picking up a cheap motherboard with overclocking features
Edited by httuner - 5/1/11 at 10:55pm
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