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Okay, I just fired up Crysis at 1920x1080 rez and got 60-70 FPS in fullscreen then 35 FPS in windowed mode. I don't believe it is your CPU but I could be wrong. Also, not all games scale the same, what drivers are you running?
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Okay, I just fired up Crysis at 1920x1080 rez and got 60-70 FPS in fullscreen then 35 FPS in windowed mode. I don't believe it is your CPU but I could be wrong. Also, not all games scale the same, what drivers are you running?
11.4 and the latest CAP.

I am getting ~80FPS windowed or full screen in the mechbay hangar.

What was your GPU usage though while playing?
    
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I would request benchmark screens with usage graphs next to it.
    
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I would request benchmark screens with usage graphs next to it.
What do you mean?

What benchmarks?
    
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From others, you should ask for proof of their results (usage/fps).

It would be nice to figure out if there is an issue with your system, or if the cpu just too slow.


If others have the same system or close to it and are getting better results you need to figure out why, and the first place you need to look is settings/clocks/usage/proof.
    
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Yes, several other players on the MWLL are getting similar results, yet a player with an i7 system with a 5970 is getting 99/99% usage at similar settings.
    
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Phenom are a bottleneck to any dual gpu configuration
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Phenom are good bottlenecker.
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Phenom are a bottleneck to any dual gpu configuration
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Phenom are good bottlenecker.
Phenomenal bottlenecker?

OP I would say you have a cpu bottleneck, are you planning to upgrade to bulldozer when it comes out?


If you are pay attention to per core performance, as many games won't use 6 cores (as you've seen) let alone 8.
    
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@ Balla

Yeah I am gonna wait and see which out of Sandybridge and Bulldozer give me the highest per core performance and go with that.

But I am liking the sound of this Ivy that can drop into a Sandy board thing, so unless BD brings it's A game I will be jumping ship.

Would a 2500k on an Asus Maximus let me drop in the Ivy chip later on?
    
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That Res should have pushed the cards to 99% load but it didn't. Also 1GB of Ram probably isn't going to be perfect for such a high res. The lock up couldn't be caused by either cards being slightly unstable could they?
I agree, gpu usage s/b 99%, definitely.

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Phenom are a bottleneck to any dual gpu configuration
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Phenom are good bottlenecker.
Yes, it's been proven.

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Phenomenal bottlenecker?

OP I would say you have a cpu bottleneck, are you planning to upgrade to bulldozer when it comes out?


If you are pay attention to per core performance, as many games won't use 6 cores (as you've seen) let alone 8.
Very true, and good advice. I'm about to drop back down to an Intel quad just for more horsepower per core.
 
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