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I got another fan from this dell.
Delta efc0912bf

The wires are red black and white... which is which?

Also i tried the Nidec on my p4 test rig which was able to handle it, and control its speeds. Does this mean its safe to try on my main rig?
    
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Meh. You could Always build yourself a Molex-powered adapter. But Akasa makes one just for you. Power from Molex, control from mb, rpm signal to mb. Get it here.

Have fun.

BTW - I suspect you could safely run it from your mb. I've run 1.2A combined draw on a Gigabyte mb (their tech support told me 1A max), but best be safe.
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That seems simple enough to make. Time to break out the soldering iron...

I was able to control it and change speeds and stuff on my crappy P4 rig (I guess it was before PWM was used beacuse it only has 3 pin, but i could change speeds.).

Also i see you got the same MB as me. Do you know the limit for it?

And even my crappy P4 was able to control the speeds pretty well.... my Asus only has like 3 settings, quiet turbo and standard.... is there a way to do percentages?

Oh and what do you recommend i do with this fan? intake or exhaust? front or rear?

And my other fan..
Delta efc0912bf
The wires are red, black, and white... which is which?
    
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The manual says our headers are limited to 2A. I never go anywhere near that.

Your big Nidec: heatsink.

The Delta? I suspect red = 12v, white = rpm reporter. Black of course is ground. But find a datasheet on your fan. Do a Google lookup. If you put the 12v through your rpm reporting line you might damage the rpm circuitry.
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Similar question -Up the Amps though- What about a 92mm, 1.8 A, 12V Fan - (red, yellow, black wires) guess that 21.6 watts -And I've got a 520c PSU (full system listed). Can I hook the 3 pins to a 2 pin-to-Molex connector? I suppose the fan would just run at Max speed... 5700 RPM (130 CFM)

Can the PSU handle it?
PSU 12v rail max: 480 w

I would guess:
CPU 95w + GPU 275w + RAM 40w + HDD 10w + Two Case Fans 6w = 426 Total watts



426w + Badass Grandpa Fan 21.6w = 447.6 watts ~ Approx 93% Capacity when running Prime95....maybe?

Btw: I definitely will not stick it on the mobo fan header wink.gif

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Originally Posted by ehume;13361010 
The manual says our headers are limited to 2A. I never go anywhere near that.

Your big Nidec: heatsink.

The Delta? I suspect red = 12v, white = rpm reporter. Black of course is ground. But find a datasheet on your fan. Do a Google lookup. If you put the 12v through your rpm reporting line you might damage the rpm circuitry.

^ This, the white is the RPM sensor.

also on the subject the NIDEC BETA V , the blue would be for PWM but I would personally google it and see if you can get a pin out diagram.
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Originally Posted by iCrap;13360841 
my Asus only has like 3 settings, quiet turbo and standard.... is there a way to do percentages?

If you're feeling adventurous.....

I have to give credit to the source of the circuit design.... So this is where it came from: PWM Controller
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And here I have it controlling a SANYO DENKI - 9SG1212P1G01
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJON56VHZIQ[/ame]

And here I have that same controller running a Nidec Servo G1238B12BBZP-00
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4sUvnvooAY[/ame]

I run these fans like this: 12V and GND straigt from the PSU, RPM Sense wire goes to the appropriate pin on whatever mobo header is closest (this gives me rpm readouts in OS via HWMonitor and other programs), Speed control wire (PWM) goes to the controller.
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Originally Posted by ehume;13361010 
The manual says our headers are limited to 2A. I never go anywhere near that.

Your big Nidec: heatsink.

The Delta? I suspect red = 12v, white = rpm reporter. Black of course is ground. But find a datasheet on your fan. Do a Google lookup. If you put the 12v through your rpm reporting line you might damage the rpm circuitry.


Ok, i assumed the same thing for the wire assignments. Il try splicing them like that and try it on the test pc


I don't have an 120mm heatsync yet... its a 29mm with the 25mm fan inside it.
Should i use the Nidec as exhaust or intake in the meantime?
    
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Originally Posted by iCrap;13366487 
Ok, i assumed the same thing for the wire assignments. Il try splicing them like that and try it on the test pc


I don't have an 120mm heatsync yet... its a 29mm with the 25mm fan inside it.
Should i use the Nidec as exhaust or intake in the meantime?

Oh, intake. Heh heh. And you might get that dinky fan out of the way . . .
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Eh i typed it totally wrong. Its a heatsync with a 92mm fan inside of it. Dunno what i wrote. 0_o

Il set it as intake. I know know for sure i need to power it from the molex now. Blew up my p4 rig's fan controller biggrin.gif
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