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Wow dude. Really?. Wanting more monster contracts in the game is SELFISH? Wishing that the game world was larger is disrespectful? This is fanboyism at its pinnacle. Believe me, I'm glad that the game is 100% perfect in your mind. That's a good thing - or it would be, if it didn't elicit such an absurd reaction to my opinion. I find the part about "asking for things out of a game that it was never meant to do" particularly mind-boggling, because almost everything that I mentioned in my post IS IN THE GAME. I just want more of it. The only thing that I brought up that isn't currently in the game is the ability to return to the game-world after completing the story-line. And that could easily be done without altering the course of the plot. Just because you don't see how it could be done does not mean that it's impossible.

And FFS the devs did NOT create the lore! Andrzej Sapkowski did. You wanna talk about "respect?" How about showing a little for a) the source material and b) other people's opinions.
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Not sure I entirely agree. It sounds like what he's asking for (which, I admit, I'd also like to have seen) is more like a slight change to the mechanics of the game, and an expansion of the world into something larger and more free-roaming.

Considering that TW2 is basically billed as an RPG, it's not unreasonable or disrespectful for one to wish that the game wasn't missing some elements that most people would consider a 'standard' for an RPG ... having 'optional' areas/dungeons where one can go and grind and loot and such ... that's not asking for a big change, that's asking for normal RPG stuff.

To me, this does not seem mutually exclusive w/the developers 'vision' in terms of the story and the lore and such. With people nowadays acclimated to massive RPG's like Diablo, WoW, Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Dragon Age, etc ... it's not surprising that people would find the 'RPG' elements of TW2 to be lacking. Cause let's face it ... they are lacking.

Still a great game and everything, but ... the parts that are missing from the traditional RPG experience ... are pretty glaring.
lol. the witcher is lacking rpg elements.

I never said the game was perfect either. Awesome games should never come to an end, they should go on being awesome for as long as i want to play it. Should i complain that game isnt 1000 hours long then?

The game has ample character development with different trees, multiple ways to handle combat, multiple ways to handle dialogue and decisions in the game. It is also statistically driven like other RPGs. It has more depth in the characters you meet, than pretty much every other recent RPG available. Tons of loot to buy,craft, or find.

There is quite a bit of optional things you can do, The game does not tell you about them all either. But the game is primarily story driven, putting the story on hold so geralt can jack around for 30 days before going after the killer kinda breaks the plot.

what exactly is lacking? The size of the world????? sorry, but if you think that having a free roam world like oblivion would make the game better, you are sorely disturbed, that a world should be crossable in a matter of minutes. It breaks the realism of the world to cram multiple nations into a small chunk of land.

Please tell me what is lacking in the game. Do it. I want details on where the witcher is weak in terms of RPG elements. I have a feeling we are discussing a strawman argument here. Or you dont know what an RPG game is.

Also, it requires 2 playthroughts to get the entire story. So much for it being such a short game, which it isnt even at 1 play through. How many endings does the game have??? 3??????????no 16 different endings based on everything you do in the game. Yeah, sure seems lacking in the RPG content.

I mentioned the books in the 2nd sentence of my previous post man. so back off. Having read what i can, i have great respect for the man. Though i dont respect opinions that are just plain stupid.

Such as, The witcher 2 is a failure as a game, why isnt it a huge open city with cars for me to drive. Geralt would have been pimp in a nice mustang. Driving around slaying monsters.

Nothing wrong with wanting more, but that is your own failure, not the games for delivering everything it needed to, and everything it tried to do.

The game will be followed up by some more DLC, and they have said they have plans for expansions to continue the story, rather than making little 1 off stories for DLC. They want to continue the main plot, and extend the game.
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lol. the witcher is lacking rpg elements.

I never said the game was perfect either. Awesome games should never come to an end, they should go on being awesome for as long as i want to play it. Should i complain that game isnt 1000 hours long then?

The game has ample character development with different trees, multiple ways to handle combat, multiple ways to handle dialogue and decisions in the game. It is also statistically driven like other RPGs. It has more depth in the characters you meet, than pretty much every other recent RPG available. Tons of loot to buy,craft, or find.

There is quite a bit of optional things you can do, The game does not tell you about them all either. But the game is primarily story driven, putting the story on hold so geralt can jack around for 30 days before going after the killer kinda breaks the plot.

what exactly is lacking? The size of the world????? sorry, but if you think that having a free roam world like oblivion would make the game better, you are sorely disturbed, that a world should be crossable in a matter of minutes. It breaks the realism of the world to cram multiple nations into a small chunk of land.

Please tell me what is lacking in the game. Do it. I want details on where the witcher is weak in terms of RPG elements. I have a feeling we are discussing a strawman argument here. Or you dont know what an RPG game is.

Also, it requires 2 playthroughts to get the entire story. So much for it being such a short game, which it isnt even at 1 play through.

I mentioned the books in the 2nd sentence of my previous post man. so back off. Having read what i can, i have great respect for the man. Though i dont respect opinions that are just plain stupid.

Such as, The witcher 2 is a failure as a game, why isnt it a huge open city with cars for me to drive. Geralt would have been pimp in a nice mustang. Driving around slaying monsters.

Nothing wrong with wanting more, but that is your own failure, not the games for delivering everything it needed to, and everything it tried to do.

The game will be followed up by some more DLC, and they have said they have plans for expansions to continue the story, rather than making little 1 off stories for DLC. They want to continue the main plot, and extend the game.
Okay, this conversation is over now. Learn to have a discussion without insulting my intelligence and deriding my opinion, and we can pick it up again @ some point in the future.
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Okay, this conversation is over now. Learn to have a discussion without insulting my intelligence and deriding my opinion, and we can pick it up again @ some point in the future.
when you decide to continue it, simply send me a tell.
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lol. the witcher is lacking rpg elements.

I never said the game was perfect either. Awesome games should never come to an end, they should go on being awesome for as long as i want to play it. Should i complain that game isnt 1000 hours long then?

The game has ample character development with different trees, multiple ways to handle combat, multiple ways to handle dialogue and decisions in the game. It is also statistically driven like other RPGs. It has more depth in the characters you meet, than pretty much every other recent RPG available. Tons of loot to buy,craft, or find.

There is quite a bit of optional things you can do, The game does not tell you about them all either. But the game is primarily story driven, putting the story on hold so geralt can jack around for 30 days before going after the killer kinda breaks the plot.

what exactly is lacking? The size of the world????? sorry, but if you think that having a free roam world like oblivion would make the game better, you are sorely disturbed, that a world should be crossable in a matter of minutes. It breaks the realism of the world to cram multiple nations into a small chunk of land.

Please tell me what is lacking in the game. Do it. I want details on where the witcher is weak in terms of RPG elements. I have a feeling we are discussing a strawman argument here. Or you dont know what an RPG game is.

Also, it requires 2 playthroughts to get the entire story. So much for it being such a short game, which it isnt even at 1 play through. How many endings does the game have??? 3??????????no 16 different endings based on everything you do in the game. Yeah, sure seems lacking in the RPG content.

I mentioned the books in the 2nd sentence of my previous post man. so back off. Having read what i can, i have great respect for the man. Though i dont respect opinions that are just plain stupid.

Such as, The witcher 2 is a failure as a game, why isnt it a huge open city with cars for me to drive. Geralt would have been pimp in a nice mustang. Driving around slaying monsters.

Nothing wrong with wanting more, but that is your own failure, not the games for delivering everything it needed to, and everything it tried to do.

The game will be followed up by some more DLC, and they have said they have plans for expansions to continue the story, rather than making little 1 off stories for DLC. They want to continue the main plot, and extend the game.
I'm sorry but flyingsaucers is right. So now constructive criticism is banned because it's DISRISPECTFUL? I've heard and seen lots of crap in my life, but this goes directly in my top 3 of most ridiculous things ever. What then, we won't be allowed to speak in order to be respectful to the mutes?

- The game is short, I don't care if you need to have 2 playthroughs and you have lots of endings depending on who you save, who you side with etc. The same applies to the first game, where you could choose 3 sides (Scoiatel, Order and neutral). IT - IS - SHORT. We have 3 acts instead of 5, and every act is slightly shorter than The Witcher 1's acts if you follow only the main quests / quite shorter if you consider all main and side quests. Also, act 3 is like half the lengh of the other acts.

- The game lacks side quests and monsters/monster hunting. While I thought that the monster contracts were way more original compared to the ones in the first game, I couldn't notice the fact that they were only a handful of quests. Also, during the first game you explored a relatively small area (if you consider the world map) and yet you found an immense variety of monsters. Here, you travel 3 nations and you always find nekkers, insects and necrophages. Nice.

Aside from these two points, which are my only serious critics to the game, I found The Witcher 2 fantastic. I don't think that the world lacks exploration or stuff like that, I just think that the "open world" thing wasn't used as good as it was in the first. Also, the levelling system is quite appropriate to me, you can either concentrate 100% on one path or try to vary more depending on what are your priorities. My first run was a 80% sword 20% sign defensive Geralt with maxed-out Quen and lots of vitality, but you can easily make Geralt do anything you want. I found it extremely balanced - except for the fact that the paths are blocked until level 10 or so.
     
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i just want to point this out. It took me practically the same amount of time to beat both games, and i did nearly all the content possible in each game. Both clocked in just under 24 hours.

Man the witcher 2 is just so much shorter than the first...................................

so i would naturally be more receptive of some peoples criticisms if my personal experience in the matter doesnt conflict with theirs.




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The more I play TW2, the more I wish that it was more fleshed out. I agree with your assessment of the economy, except I spent a lot of money on lore books my first playthrough, thinking that you'd need them to collect beastie parts like the first game. Turns out they are virtually useless except for 3 contracts. A Witcher is supposed to be an itinerant monster slayer, and yet there are only what, 5 or 6 contracts in the entire game? Some of the game's best creatures you only encounter two or three times! I only got to kill one troll! There's a broad selection of potions that compliment and counter-balance each other, yet almost no incentive to use more a handful of them. I wish the game had massive vistas of creature infested forests and cliffsides that Geralt could wander into and spend hours exploring, killing beasts and searching for rare loot. Unfortunately the plot guides you straight through, and experience is doled out at such a fixed pace that you don't even have to think about it. I really hope the next game has more free-roaming options, a really high level cap, and more varied viable gear options. In other words, make it more of an RPG, CDPR!
I agree with only one problem. I don't want the size and larger environments to come at the cost of detail. Why do I get the feeling that the reason the forests and areas in the game feel so hand crafted and natural is because they aren't to large? I get the feeling that if we got a bigger map we might get a lot of copy and pasting of environment textures, rocks, and trees. I happen to notice that stuff and it bugs me in games. It is the one reason why I couldn't stand Fallout 3 for more then 5 minutes, every subway had the same poster, garbage can, and looked the same. So yes, I obviously want a more free roaming and bigger game just like you...just not at the cost of detail. I would like them to make the item crafting more valuable and make things more expensive in the store when they are the best items...make us work for it a little.
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Is mutagens really that useless? I mean, im halfway through act 2 and i've only used only one mutagen and I put it in the witcher training skill tree (the last skill I forgot what its called). Even though the skill is level two, you can't put mutagens on the other skills.
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i just want to point this out. It took me practically the same amount of time to beat both games, and i did nearly all the content possible in each game. Both clocked in just under 24 hours.

Man the witcher 2 is just so much shorter than the first...................................

so i would naturally be more receptive of some peoples criticisms if my personal experience in the matter doesnt conflict with theirs.



That isn't the time you took to beat the game, but the time it was when you saved. My last save on TW1 is at 01:50
Honestly, it took me like 40 hours to beat TW1 and do all side quests. TW2 took me probably 20, max 25 (and yes, I did all side quests here too)
     
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By all means,as much as i love TW2,i have to admit that it's short compared to TW1,chapter 3 is way too short.
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