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Hey guys, how long did it take for you to install the patch? Mine unpacked and continued to do its thing while I browsed OCN. I went to check on it now and it is still on "finishing installation".
For pc.
I downloaded the patch, rather than updating it via the game.
After the download, it took almost 2 min to install.
The finishing installation part took about 15-20 seconds.
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Is there a way to get Deithwen once you're already inside Loc Muinne on Iorveth's path?

I've got all the best armor (Vran armor, elder blood set) and the best swords I could find (Caerme [two Fire runes] and Zerrikanterment [two Ysgith runes]) but I'm really looking to get Deithwen, and I didn't know about it's location when I was following Iorveth through the mountains. :/

I've gotten my way back to the wall where we dropped in but I can't reach the ledge to leave and I've done too much inside Loc Muinne to load an older save.

Is Deithwen really all that much better than Zerri? I've already fought Saskia with Addan Deith unmolested but figured it would be quicker with a better sword. I didn't save after Saskia because I didn't realize all hell would break loose after we fought. So I still have some things left to do, such as the Operator. I'm trying to kill him for fun but he's a tough mudder with those damn gargoyles.
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How do I beat the first dragon?
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I bought the Witcher 2 off GoG yesterday, installed it today, and uninstalled it 40 minutes later.

I loved the first game, and I'm currently on my fourth complete play-through of it, but the Witcher 2 is completely unplayable in comparison.

There is substantial control and camera lag; the auto-targeting is an utter disaster, manual targeting is tedious, and needing to select targets at all is almost too stupid to believe, considering how well the first game worked without it; all attacks are fully committed, with no ability to stop what you are doing; the finishing moves, that you cannot chose not to do, frequently leave you in a compromising position; and Gearalt is generally much less responsive than in the previous game. Combat is more challenging and difficult, not because of any improvement to enemy tactics/AI (which is as idiotic as ever, but because your ability to control the character you are playing has been crippled.

At first I thought my difficulties were related to using the "Dark" difficulty setting, but after trying the lesser difficulties and having exactly the same issues (just taking a bit less damage), I can say for sure that was not it. The game feels tangibly consolified, and all the advantages of having a mouse are negated because of the silly control scheme. I haven't been able to experience any significant story content because the gameplay is an insurmountable barrier, and nothing could be worth suffering through it's absurdities and tedium.

The Witcher 2 is literally the biggest disappointment I have experienced in PC gaming since Battlespire in 1997.

It's my own fault really. The near universally positive reviews, and the fact that the combat system was lauded as an improvement over the first game, when I never had any problems with the original, should have been a dead give away that the game was crap.
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I bought the Witcher 2 off GoG yesterday, installed it today, and uninstalled it 40 minutes later.

I loved the first game, and I'm currently on my fourth complete play-through of it, but the Witcher 2 is completely unplayable in comparison.

There is substantial control and camera lag; the auto-targeting is an utter disaster, manual targeting is tedious, and needing to select targets at all is almost too stupid to believe, considering how well the first game worked without it; all attacks are fully committed, with no ability to stop what you are doing; the finishing moves, that you cannot chose not to do, frequently leave you in a compromising position; and Gearalt is generally much less responsive than in the previous game. Combat is more challenging and difficult, not because of any improvement to enemy tactics/AI (which is as idiotic as ever, but because your ability to control the character you are playing has been crippled.

At first I thought my difficulties were related to using the "Dark" difficulty setting, but after trying the lesser difficulties and having exactly the same issues (just taking a bit less damage), I can say for sure that was not it. The game feels tangibly consolified, and all the advantages of having a mouse are negated because of the silly control scheme. I haven't been able to experience any significant story content because the gameplay is an insurmountable barrier, and nothing could be worth suffering through it's absurdities and tedium.

The Witcher 2 is literally the biggest disappointment I have experienced in PC gaming since Battlespire in 1997.

It's my own fault really. The near universally positive reviews, and the fact that the combat system was lauded as an improvement over the first game, when I never had any problems with the original, should have been a dead give away that the game was crap.
It took me a little while to get used to the combat/controls of TW2, but once I got used to it I realized that, in my opinion, they are superior to those of TW1... The sluggishness you speak of however, does not seem right... I thought the game was very fluid (as long as you weren't crippled by low frame-rates with all the eye-candy turned up). Never did I feel that it suffered from consolitis... In fact, I must say it's probably the best PC game, especially of those that feels like a PC game, that I've played in quite some time...

The combat feels much more involved this time as opposed to the first game. In the first game you literally stand in one spot and keep clicking in rhythm, maybe blocking here and there to defeat most enemies. The combat here has a bit more moving involved and more reliant on your powers/bombs.

I really do think you'd be missing out on an absolutely fantastic game/story by not giving it a second chance.
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The sluggishness you speak of however, does not seem right... I thought the game was very fluid (as long as you weren't crippled by low frame-rates with all the eye-candy turned up).
Frame rate wasn't the issue. I had vsync off, was getting a solid 50-70 fps, and there was still a very perceptible delay to the game following my mouse movements, as well as the camera being noticeably loose.

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The combat feels much more involved this time as opposed to the first game. In the first game you literally stand in one spot and keep clicking in rhythm, maybe blocking here and there to defeat most enemies.
This is not generally how I played the first game.

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The combat here has a bit more moving involved and more reliant on your powers/bombs.
I never liked the magical abilities, or the bombs (I think I used bombs twice in about 200 hours of Witcher 1), and would prefer to melee whenever possible.

Regardless, my complaint isn't what the combat system seems to be reliant upon as much as that I do not even seem to be in control of what Geralt is doing in the Witcher 2. It literally got to the point where i was yelling "What the **** are you doing?!", "Why are you over there?!", or "Don't attack him, attack the guy who is about to kill you!" at Geralt. Frustrating in the extreme is the most mild way I can describe it.

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I really do think you'd be missing out on an absolutely fantastic game/story by not giving it a second chance.
I gave the game about 30 chances in as many minutes.

If I can't get a handle on basic combat in that span of time and that number of reloads, I'm never going to get a handle on it.

In the first game, I attacked what I clicked, and used my magic in the direction I was facing. In this game I attack and use powers on whatever I am targeting, regardless of my facing, and seem to have very little control over what I am targeting.

I can cycle through targets manually, but that takes time, or I can let the auto targeting take over, and that is a disaster because it sticks when I don't want it to and releases when I would prefer it did not.

I think I'll just read a transcript. No story is worth a repeat of what I just experienced...that's how aggravating I felt it was.
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Dangit, I'm still getting terribad artifacting/textures not loading. Reinstalling again today. I wish that I could actually play the game so I could try to talk with Blameless about it, but I can't. The glitches are so bad it makes me want to claw my eyes out.

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playing the witcher 2 atm and in my opinion its the best game i've played since red dead redemption and demon souls(ps3). love the game was wondering if it will be worth getting the first one now or would i not get the same enjoyment because ive played the secound
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is this game better played with a controller because it seems like it
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is this game better played with a controller because it seems like it
It's all a matter of personal preference. I certainly like it better on the controller, but it worked absolutely fine on the M&K too, just a little difficult at times in combat situations.
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