Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › 580 3gb Vs 2x 560 2gb... 5760x1080
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

580 3gb Vs 2x 560 2gb... 5760x1080

post #1 of 49
Thread Starter 
Hey all,

Ok, i've had a few posts trying to decide which card[s] i want to get for my new rig, i was pretty much settled on 2x Gainward 560Ti 2gb cards to run at 5760x1080...
But now im wondering if it would be better to just get 1x Gainward 580 3gb instead...
What sort of frames do you think i might see either side, now that Vram isnt a limiting factor in NV surround?

The Pro's i can see are:

~ More Vram for high Res Anti-aliasing
~ Less power required (1 card as apposed to 2)
~ Future proofing, ability to upgrade

Cons:

~ Twice the price
~ Will have to fork out for a bigger powersupply with the chances of going a second 580 in the future
~ 2x midranged cards in the future might perform better (Next gen 34nm)
~ NV SURROUND WILL NOT WORK ON ONE CARD

All input will be greatly appreciated!

Cheers,

Ishi

Edit: 1x Nvidia card is not enough to run NV surround...

Quote:
FACEPALM

Edited by Ishinomori - 5/2/11 at 9:33am
post #2 of 49
The 560 will kill the 580, but of course the sli 580 will outperform the 560's.

Since you want AA, I would recommend the 580. You can SLI it later (even though it will cost 4x the price for 2)

But I don't think you need a new PSU. your SS 850w is more than enough for 2 580's.
The Butthurt Box
(21 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P67 Professional AMD Radeon HD 6950 unlock NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 2gb 
RAMRAMHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill Ripjaws G.Skill Ripjaws Intel X25-V Seagate Barracuda 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Goflex USB 3.0 24x DVD R/W DL Win7 Ultermate 64 Acer 20in 1600x900 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Compaq 20in 1600x900 17in Dell 1280x1024 19in Gateway 1280x1024 Razer Blackwidow mech w/ cherry MX blues 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Kingwin LZ-750 HAF 932 + sound activated lights Logitech G500 Rosewill USB headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium 4 3.2ghz w/ HT HP Intel IGP 4gb Mushkin DDR2 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
80gb sata WinXP Pro HP OEM HP Small form factor 
  hide details  
Reply
The Butthurt Box
(21 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P67 Professional AMD Radeon HD 6950 unlock NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 2gb 
RAMRAMHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill Ripjaws G.Skill Ripjaws Intel X25-V Seagate Barracuda 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Goflex USB 3.0 24x DVD R/W DL Win7 Ultermate 64 Acer 20in 1600x900 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Compaq 20in 1600x900 17in Dell 1280x1024 19in Gateway 1280x1024 Razer Blackwidow mech w/ cherry MX blues 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Kingwin LZ-750 HAF 932 + sound activated lights Logitech G500 Rosewill USB headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium 4 3.2ghz w/ HT HP Intel IGP 4gb Mushkin DDR2 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
80gb sata WinXP Pro HP OEM HP Small form factor 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 49
FACEPALM!! <--- nah, j/k had to do it after I saw your edit

anyhow, I don't think a single GTX580 would be powerful enough to take advantage of the 3GB VRAM, and you would need two, to really let it shine.... IMO.
Longshot r4.2
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k Maximus IV GENE-Z eVGA GTX780 Ti 3GB Sniper 8GB 1600 1.25V 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
M4 256GB + C300 128GB + WD Red 4TB LG Blu-ray RW external Windows 10 U2711 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine 3 AX850 FT03b Logitech G9x 
Mouse PadAudio
Bubbles Pad NR1604 + RB-51 II 
  hide details  
Reply
Longshot r4.2
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600k Maximus IV GENE-Z eVGA GTX780 Ti 3GB Sniper 8GB 1600 1.25V 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
M4 256GB + C300 128GB + WD Red 4TB LG Blu-ray RW external Windows 10 U2711 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine 3 AX850 FT03b Logitech G9x 
Mouse PadAudio
Bubbles Pad NR1604 + RB-51 II 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 49
I typed a long reply, but got an error 500 when i hit submit, so here's the cliffnotes:

2 560s isn't really enough raw power to do high settings on that resolution, 2GB of memory or otherwise. You'll still have medium to medium-high settings with that setup, but it'll quickly go downhill with upcoming games like BF3.

My personal suggestion would be to wait until the 600 series, which I expect to have single-card tri-monitor support and higher reference memory amounts (500 series showed NVidia that raw power isn't everything). If you want the huge resolutions now, go with the second 560, but don't expect miracles.
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 49
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Apocalypse- View Post
I typed a long reply, but got an error 500 when i hit submit, so here's the cliffnotes:

2 560s isn't really enough raw power to do high settings on that resolution, 2GB of memory or otherwise. You'll still have medium to medium-high settings with that setup, but it'll quickly go downhill with upcoming games like BF3.

My personal suggestion would be to wait until the 600 series, which I expect to have single-card tri-monitor support and higher reference memory amounts (500 series showed NVidia that raw power isn't everything). If you want the huge resolutions now, go with the second 560, but don't expect miracles.
Being a Midranged card, i wasn't really, but im really keen to get the immersion factor of 3x monitors, not to mention you can get 3x dell IPS for under $700AUD

I prefer frames over outright "maxxed" settings anyway
post #6 of 49
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by railfan844 View Post
The 560 will kill the 580, but of course the sli 580 will outperform the 560's.

Since you want AA, I would recommend the 580. You can SLI it later (even though it will cost 4x the price for 2)

But I don't think you need a new PSU. your SS 850w is more than enough for 2 580's.
Even OC'ing both 580's and the CPU to roughly 4.5ghz?
post #7 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishinomori View Post
Even OC'ing both 580's and the CPU to roughly 4.5ghz?
Shouldn't be a problem......
The Butthurt Box
(21 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P67 Professional AMD Radeon HD 6950 unlock NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 2gb 
RAMRAMHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill Ripjaws G.Skill Ripjaws Intel X25-V Seagate Barracuda 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Goflex USB 3.0 24x DVD R/W DL Win7 Ultermate 64 Acer 20in 1600x900 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Compaq 20in 1600x900 17in Dell 1280x1024 19in Gateway 1280x1024 Razer Blackwidow mech w/ cherry MX blues 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Kingwin LZ-750 HAF 932 + sound activated lights Logitech G500 Rosewill USB headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium 4 3.2ghz w/ HT HP Intel IGP 4gb Mushkin DDR2 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
80gb sata WinXP Pro HP OEM HP Small form factor 
  hide details  
Reply
The Butthurt Box
(21 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i5 2500K P67 Professional AMD Radeon HD 6950 unlock NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 2gb 
RAMRAMHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill Ripjaws G.Skill Ripjaws Intel X25-V Seagate Barracuda 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Goflex USB 3.0 24x DVD R/W DL Win7 Ultermate 64 Acer 20in 1600x900 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Compaq 20in 1600x900 17in Dell 1280x1024 19in Gateway 1280x1024 Razer Blackwidow mech w/ cherry MX blues 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Kingwin LZ-750 HAF 932 + sound activated lights Logitech G500 Rosewill USB headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium 4 3.2ghz w/ HT HP Intel IGP 4gb Mushkin DDR2 
Hard DriveOSPowerCase
80gb sata WinXP Pro HP OEM HP Small form factor 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 49
Thread Starter 
Now im considering going a single U2311H and a single 580 3gb card!!

Grr
post #9 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by railfan844 View Post
Shouldn't be a problem......
I agree. With 3x GTX580's, the highest power draw I could muster was 1033W during BF:BC2. Most of the time it was 850-950W average, that was on an HX1000. See here.
 
KillTheBananas
(14 items)
 
Minecraft Server
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500k @ 4.9Ghz 1.42v Asus Maximus IV Extreme Rev B3 EVGA 3GB GTX 780 FTW 8GB G.Skill Trident DDR3 1866Mhz 9-9-9-24 1.65v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
40GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, 2x WD 320GB Raid-0, 1TB WD 2x Lite On LH-20A1S Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Hanns-G 28" | 1920x1200 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Gaming Antec HCP-1200 CoolerMaster HAF-X w/ window mod Logitech G9 Gaming Laser 
Mouse Pad
SteelSeries 63003SS QCK+ XXL 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.6Ghz MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum 2x 9600gt 1GB in SLI 2x 2GB Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Blue 250GB 2x LiteOn DVD-RW Windows 7 Ultimate x64 HannsG Hi221D 22" 1680 x 1050 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
PS/2 Antec Earthwatts 650w Antec 900 Optical 
Audio
Realtek 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.2Ghz Tyan Tomcat S2866 PNY 8600GT 2x 1Gb, 2x 512MB Mix'n'match 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
160GB WD don't remember XP x86 19" HannStar 1440x900 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
MiMO 7" USB Monitor PS/2 450W something Antec mid 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Dell hmmm no need 
  hide details  
Reply
 
KillTheBananas
(14 items)
 
Minecraft Server
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-2500k @ 4.9Ghz 1.42v Asus Maximus IV Extreme Rev B3 EVGA 3GB GTX 780 FTW 8GB G.Skill Trident DDR3 1866Mhz 9-9-9-24 1.65v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
40GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, 2x WD 320GB Raid-0, 1TB WD 2x Lite On LH-20A1S Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Hanns-G 28" | 1920x1200 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Gaming Antec HCP-1200 CoolerMaster HAF-X w/ window mod Logitech G9 Gaming Laser 
Mouse Pad
SteelSeries 63003SS QCK+ XXL 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.6Ghz MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum 2x 9600gt 1GB in SLI 2x 2GB Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Blue 250GB 2x LiteOn DVD-RW Windows 7 Ultimate x64 HannsG Hi221D 22" 1680 x 1050 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
PS/2 Antec Earthwatts 650w Antec 900 Optical 
Audio
Realtek 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2.2Ghz Tyan Tomcat S2866 PNY 8600GT 2x 1Gb, 2x 512MB Mix'n'match 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
160GB WD don't remember XP x86 19" HannStar 1440x900 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
MiMO 7" USB Monitor PS/2 450W something Antec mid 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Dell hmmm no need 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 49
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by _CH_Skyline_ View Post
I agree. With 3x GTX580's, the highest power draw I could muster was 1033W during BF:BC2. Most of the time it was 850-950W average, that was on an HX1000. See here.
Cheers mate, glad to see i made a good choice with the PSU!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › 580 3gb Vs 2x 560 2gb... 5760x1080