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Yes. 14 SATA ports are on that chipset, 10 of those 6Gbps capable, 8 of those SAS-capable. Full details:

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its a shame they have not dropped a 32nm chip into the x58 that oc well and has the new IMC.

its coming to something when i setup half the price is killing the x58 all over the board.

we know theres loads of life left in x58 and intel just want to kill it to make people buy new Mbs.

its like intel are thinking ahhh we can make big monies off chips lets rape the chipset market aswell

its a joke..

intel could drop a 8 core into a x58 nps and it would be beast. but then they don't sell new chipsets.

FAIL INTEL
Sandy Bridge E uses on-die PCIe (AFAIK), while x58 doesn't. It would be impossible to implement this on the x58 chipset.

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why SSD pwn 15k drives and its cheaper.
I'm seeing less than a dollar/gb for 15,000 rpm drives, and 2/gb for consumer SSDs. About 5 times that much for Enterprise level SSDs. Yes, they're faster. I'll give you that.
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I'm seeing less than a dollar/gb for 15,000 rpm drives, and 2/gb for consumer SSDs. About 5 times that much for Enterprise level SSDs. Yes, they're faster. I'll give you that.
Using your cost numbers....

A 15K HDD will provide 10-20% increases at twice the price of a consumer HDD.
A SSD will provide 1000-5000% increase at ten times the price of a consumer HDD.

Which is a better deal?
2x cost = 0.1-0.2x performance
10x cost = 10-50x performance
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its a shame they have not dropped a 32nm chip into the x58 that oc well and has the new IMC.

its coming to something when i setup half the price is killing the x58 all over the board.

we know theres loads of life left in x58 and intel just want to kill it to make people buy new Mbs.

its like intel are thinking ahhh we can make big monies off chips lets rape the chipset market aswell

its a joke..

intel could drop a 8 core into a x58 nps and it would be beast. but then they don't sell new chipsets.

FAIL INTEL
Or you could not upgrade every single time intel releases a new anything? Your computer still runs great, you save tons of money, intel doesn't make as much money and changes their business practices! Or not on that last one.

Its not even like everything is staying the same and they are just changing the sockets to screw people. Technology is moving forward quickly! I would prefer they focus on new stuff instead of dragging along old chipsets/sockets.
    
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Using your cost numbers....

A 15K HDD will provide 10-20% increases at twice the price of a consumer HDD.
A SSD will provide 1000-5000% increase at ten times the price of a consumer HDD.

Which is a better deal?
2x cost = 0.1-0.2x performance
10x cost = 10-50x performance
Duckie, That wasn't the point. He said SSDs were cheaper; they're not. That's it.
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Duckie, That wasn't the point. He said SSDs were cheaper; they're not. That's it.
Actually, it depends entirely on how you define "cheaper". He did not specify the criteria and actually implied it in terms of performance.


SSDs are cheaper for performance/dollar.
SSDs are not cheaper for storage/dollar.


If we're talking about high-performance enterprise environments, you see SSDs more and more.....
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Actually, it depends entirely on how you define "cheaper". He did not specify the criteria and actually implied it in terms of performance.


SSDs are cheaper for performance/dollar.
SSDs are not cheaper for storage/dollar.


If we're talking about high-performance enterprise environments, you see SSDs more and more.....
And when it comes to "storage" we all know "storage space" doesn't matter, right?
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And when it comes to "storage" we all know "storage space" doesn't matter, right?
Actually, it depends entirely on usage. If you have an application that is I/O bottlenecked, performance is more important that space. If someone is investing in 15K HDDs, they are obviously have some notion of performance otherwise they would have just ordered 7200 or even 10K HDDs.

What good is more storage when you have a 500GB database?
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/2/11 at 1:28pm
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Actually, it depends entirely on usage. If you have an application that is I/O bottlenecked, performance is more important that space. If someone is investing in 15K HDDs, they are obviously have some notion of performance otherwise they would have just ordered 7200 or even 10K HDDs.

What good is more storage when you have a 500GB database?
I've never, ever seen storage priced as anything other than $/gb. Clearly you have.. a different view.

We're talking about 900gb of 15krpm for the same price as 64gb of SLC flash. It's not a stretch to understand they have different applications.
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I've never, ever seen storage priced as anything other than $/gb. Clearly you have.. a different view.

We're talking about 900gb of 15krpm for the same price as 64gb of SLC flash. It's not a stretch to understand they have different applications.
Where do you look at storage prices? In the US, the prices are listed simply in dollars. I have never seen a retailer or OEM list disk storage prices in $/gb.

Of course, they have different applications... that is my point, not yours. So when you attempted to argue about "cheaper" or "what matters", you are not considering the application/usage.
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