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I've never, ever seen storage priced as anything other than $/gb. Clearly you have.. a different view.

We're talking about 900gb of 15krpm for the same price as 64gb of SLC flash. It's not a stretch to understand they have different applications.
Think about it this way:

What you are comparing is a fast 2-seater sports car compared against a quad-cab diesel pick up truck. You are arguing that the sports car is expensive because your truck can haul 2x4 wood planks in the back and carry more people inside.

If you are looking for speed, you get the product that is more efficient for speed. If you are looking for large space, you get the product that is more efficient for size.
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Think about it this way:

What you are comparing is a fast 2-seater sports car compared against a quad-cab diesel pick up truck. You are arguing that the sports car is expensive because your truck can haul 2x4 wood planks in the back and carry more people inside.

If you are looking for speed, you get the product that is more efficient for speed. If you are looking for large space, you get the product that is more efficient for size.
No, Riou, what I'm arguing is that storage is measured in space. Storage is priced in dollars (or cents) per gb. That is all.

He said SSDs were cheaper; it's easily proven they are not. The end.

Of course, the two of you can keep overlooking the fact that I said "They are faster, I give you that" all you want.
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A 15K HDD will provide 10-20% increases at twice the price of a consumer HDD.
A SSD will provide 1000-5000% increase at ten times the price of a consumer HDD.
Who makes an SSD that is 50 times as fast as a decent HDD?
    
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Who makes an SSD that is 50 times as fast as a decent HDD?
When it comes to random reads and writes, I would think most SSDs would be 50x faster or higher than any hard drive.
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No, Riou, what I'm arguing is that storage is measured in space. Storage is priced in dollars (or cents) per gb. That is all.

He said SSDs were cheaper; it's easily proven they are not. The end.

Of course, the two of you can keep overlooking the fact that I said "They are faster, I give you that" all you want.
My point is price is subjective unless well-defined. Price is NOT not always directly monetary.

Storage capacity is measured in space. Storage can also be measured in terms of: capacity, performance, reliability, replacability, maintenance, warranty....

Yes, SSD cost more money per GB. However, you can easily argue that SSDs are cheaper in terms of performance.

You are not understanding the deeper definitions of "cheaper", "price", or "cost". Take economics. You are attempting to argue a point while trapped within confines of your understanding.

Think about it like this: When someone says "That's the price you pay for saving a few dollars"... what do they mean? Obviously price does NOT directly mean money.

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Who makes an SSD that is 50 times as fast as a decent HDD?

Fastest consumer HDD (600GB VelociRaptor) vs last generation SSD (100GB Vertex 2):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/152?vs=182

Look at the random performance.
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might have to upgrade...how much you think i could sell my mobo and cpu for?
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Why only USB 2.0? My first thought was they would intentionally not support 3.0 because they want to charge for licensing fees for light peak...

But I don't see that on there either.

I'm confused.
When the x68 came out, everyone knew that they werent going to be beaten by ivy bridge when it comes out, thankfully I saved money and waited, ivy will probaly stay longer because this is the final model on this arch. i can imagine.
    
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PCI-E 3.0 and SATA6 is looking good...might shell out some cash for the first time in a while and upgrade. Nice 300GB Vertex 3 to go with it I reckon
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We're talking about 900gb of 15krpm for the same price as 64gb of SLC flash. It's not a stretch to understand they have different applications.
I'm sorry? Where do you get the prices?

I don't know where you live but here 15k.7 Cheetas and 15k600 Ultrastars aren't that cheap (0.5-0.8€/gb), meaning that a 300gb 15k costs roughly like a 128gb sandforce SSD. That's ridiculous when compared to how much performance you are actually losing when choosing a 15k over a SSD.
Without counting the noise, the power consumption and the heat of a 15k.
     
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Unfortunately I can't use SSDs yet, until they have the security issues with erasing them worked out. If I bought one now, I'd have to physically destroy it later. Not my idea of fun. So for the moment 15k RPM SAS drives are my best option. Anyway, that's off topic...

As for the X79, where in hell is my USB 3.0? Intel was driving the whole USB 3.0 thing for a while! This platform is my next upgrade, as there's nothing on the market right now for me to upgrade to (except maybe a 970 through 990X). And it'll probably last three years also.
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