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Yep most cases of the cases fit 2 to 3 rads comfortably, 4 with ingenuity. The TX10 - undetermined how many.

M8 and M10 fit only 360 sized radiators. MH10, TH10 and TX10 fit 480 sized radiators, the TX10 I think fits 560 drop ins?

And as stated previously they all can fit multiple radiators internally. (Check my sig link for an example of an MH10 that has qty2 XSPC Rx480's mounted internally)
alright thanks! Since I literally know nothing about water cooling right now (I was not planning to learn until I was going to make my own loop) what is the difference between the 360, 480, and 560 sized rads? How many fans of what size will fit on each?
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120mm or 140mm per fan....
360 = 3 120mm fans side by side
480 = 4 120mm fans side by side
560 = 4 140mm fans side by side (usually has holes so that you can use 4 120mm fans as well)
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120mm or 140mm per fan....
360 = 3 120mm fans side by side
480 = 4 120mm fans side by side
560 = 4 140mm fans side by side (usually has holes so that you can use 4 120mm fans as well)
What do you mean by that? Thanks for letting me know what is what btw.

I just need to research good WC fans now since I have heard that Noctuas are not so great for WC and that is all I have in my case right now to use.
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fans are usually either 120mm or 140mm wide. a 360mm radiator can have three 120mm fans side by side (3*120=360). A 560mm radiator can hold four 140mm fans side by side (140*4=560). 560mm radiators can also have mounting holes so that you can mount four 120mm fans.
http://www.overclock.net/case-labs/8...l#post11680989
If you look at the first picture the top radiator is a 360mm radiator. The one underneath it is a 560mm radiator. You can see the 360mm radiator has space for three 120mm fans while the 560mm radiator has space for four 140mm fans. That specific radiator does not come with mounting holes for 120mm fans but some do.
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fans are usually either 120mm or 140mm wide. a 360mm radiator can have three 120mm fans side by side (3*120=360). A 560mm radiator can hold four 140mm fans side by side (140*4=560). 560mm radiators can also have mounting holes so that you can mount four 120mm fans.
http://www.overclock.net/case-labs/8...l#post11680989
If you look at the first picture the top radiator is a 360mm radiator. The one underneath it is a 560mm radiator. You can see the 360mm radiator has space for three 120mm fans while the 560mm radiator has space for four 140mm fans. That specific radiator does not come with mounting holes for 120mm fans but some do.
ok thanks a lot. I dont think that size matters too much when you have 2 or 3 360 rads or bigger though So maybe when I save enough for something as expensive as this I won't really have to worry about that too much. I could just get what would fit.
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ok thanks a lot. I dont think that size matters too much when you have 2 or 3 360 rads or bigger though So maybe when I save enough for something as expensive as this I won't really have to worry about that too much. I could just get what would fit.
Yes, the best thing would be to figure out where you will locate your case and the amount of space you are ok with it taking up. When I initially did that I planned on purchasing an M8 or an M10 based on the idea that I would have it on top of my desk. Then when Jim (Case Labs) mentioned he was thinking about an M10 height case that fits 480 rads I KNEW I wanted it and double checked- it fit perfectly under my desk because of the height and the depth wasn't too much an issue since I could then put 480's instead of 360's in

So in this case I let the location of the case determine the ultimate decision and after that decision you worry about the radiators.

BTW the most popular radiator fan at the moment are the Gentle Typhoon series AP-13, AP-14, and the most sought after of all of these the AP-15
    
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Yes, the best thing would be to figure out where you will locate your case and the amount of space you are ok with it taking up. When I initially did that I planned on purchasing an M8 or an M10 based on the idea that I would have it on top of my desk. Then when Jim (Case Labs) mentioned he was thinking about an M10 height case that fits 480 rads I KNEW I wanted it and double checked- it fit perfectly under my desk because of the height and the depth wasn't too much an issue since I could then put 480's instead of 360's in

So in this case I let the location of the case determine the ultimate decision and after that decision you worry about the radiators.

BTW the most popular radiator fan at the moment are the Gentle Typhoon series AP-13, AP-14, and the most sought after of all of these the AP-15
I know this is not the correct forum to be asking these questions but why are those fans so much better for WC? What should I look for in a WC fan over a different one? My noctua 140mm fans work great on the D14, but I don't know why they would not work just as well on a WC setup.
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I know this is not the correct forum to be asking these questions but why are those fans so much better for WC? What should I look for in a WC fan over a different one? My noctua 140mm fans work great on the D14, but I don't know why they would not work just as well on a WC setup.
High static pressure. WC fans push air better when up against resistance. AP15's are popular not because they push more air. But because they push more air at a better noise to air pushed ratio then most any other fan you can find. The noise quality from those fans are amazing!

When you air cool you mostly look at how much air it pushed without resistance. WC is all about how much air you can efficiently push up against resistance (the radiators in this case).
    
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High static pressure. WC fans push air better when up against resistance. AP15's are popular not because they push more air. But because they push more air at a better noise to air pushed ratio then most any other fan you can find. The noise quality from those fans are amazing!

When you air cool you mostly look at how much air it pushed without resistance. WC is all about how much air you can efficiently push up against resistance (the radiators in this case).
The biggest issue with the Gentle Typhoons is that they are hard to get a hold of. Not to mention they are incredibly over priced. You can get the same performance from a high speed Yate Loon and get a little more noise but pay about $5 each. Gentle Typhoons are usually around $18 each which is an incredible amount when you need 12+ fans.
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Originally Posted by VW_TDI_02 View Post
The biggest issue with the Gentle Typhoons is that they are hard to get a hold of. Not to mention they are incredibly over priced. You can get the same performance from a high speed Yate Loon and get a little more noise but pay about $5 each. Gentle Typhoons are usually around $18 each which is an incredible amount when you need 12+ fans.
Depends, I paid $14.09 each for mines and shipping only came out to about $16 for me (but I bought 25 total so the cost was smaller)

Aquatuning is currently selling it for a hair over 15... the price has been creeping up but I think that has to do with the Japan issue.

http://www.aquatuning.us/product_inf...20x25mm--.html

Yes you can get Yate Loons but the sound quality is definitely noticeable. All personal choice though
    
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