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I was upgrading my system this past weekend.

I was adding

XigmaTek Dark Knight
AMD 6950
Crucial C300
Western Digital 1.5 TB

to the system in my sig.

After having a lot of trouble getting everything together, I went to install Windows 7. Everything was going fine until it rebooted the first time. As it was loading up, the system seemed to reboot again during the startup sending me back to the start screen for motherboard. A screen was brought up saying that the system did not recover correctly and asked me whether I wanted to go to the recovery manager or start windows normally. I started normally and the setup for the rest of Windows 7 went fine. I later had problems during installing of drivers or updates. The system would sometimes crash like during installation and bring up a screen asking me whether I wanted to do the recovery manager other times a BSOD would happen. I could not find a single log or dump that would tell me why these things were happening.

The other problem I had was that Windows 7 would boot fast but the USB devices didn't seem to turn on until later. Unplugging some of the usb drives seemed to help the Mouse and Keyboard boot faster, but if the extarnal hard drive is connected Windows 7 which should load fast from the SSD instead lags. I am wondering if it is possible that I didn't plug something in that I needed to and the USB devices are not all getting enough power.

I'm going to try and burn Windows 7 again to see if that might help at all and reformat the drive.

I'm wondering if perhaps the latter problems are being caused because my Power Supply can't provide enough juice for my computer. It's a 650 Watt, which I think would be enough. If the power supply indeed wasn't enough, I thought my Graphics card would just not work at all.

Any help at all would be very appreciated.
post #2 of 25
Your PSU is more than enough for your setup unless it's damaged somehow.Re-burn Win 7?Are you using a legit copy?If so try booting up the disk and running a boot repair.I'm not too familiar with SSD setups/setting but that could be the problem also.Hopefully someone with more knowledge will chime in.
 
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post #3 of 25
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Originally Posted by reezin14;13357451 
Your PSU is more than enough for your setup unless it's damaged somehow.Re-burn Win 7?Are you using a legit copy?If so try booting up the disk and running a boot repair.I'm not too familiar with SSD setups/setting but that could be the problem also.Hopefully someone with more knowledge will chime in.

Thanks for at least replying. The copy of windows is the legit copy linked on this forum from Microsoft. I think I am going to do these steps to see if it fixes.

1.Burn new image of Windows 7 (Does the default windows 7 burner allow you to change the burning speed?)
2. Back up all of the data of the external drive.
3. Unplug the external drive
4. Only have the keyboard and mouse plugged in.
5. Fix the extra usb plugs on the inside of the motherboard. When I was plugging the power supply plugs back in I saw these open slots that said USB 1-2,3-4.4-6 etc . I plugged what looked like on the power supply cables plugs that looked exactly like the ones on the motherboard (5 Open on top, 4 open on bottom). I believe the case's front usb ports need plugged in there and I mistakenly put those power supply plugs there instead.
6. Reset the CMOS
7. Reinstall Windows 7 on the SSD.

I was afraid I may have either shocked something by accident.
My coworker said that the external drive may be going bad and could be the reason why the windows 7 startup is slow when it is plugged in.
post #4 of 25
you should make sure your SSD is running in ASCI mode, not IDE mode. Change this in the BIOS, then reinstall windows. If you have windows already installed then this will not work so you should change this setting first and then reformat.

As always when reformatting, do not run the setup that says it will save your data, that never works. Wipe the whole drive with a clean install when you do this to make sure it works.
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post #5 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojita;13357614 
I was afraid I may have either shocked something by accident.

That could very well be the case.thinking.gif The other steps you put down sounds like a good way to troubleshoot.GL
 
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post #6 of 25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hfcobra;13357716 
you should make sure your SSD is running in ASCI mode, not IDE mode. Change this in the BIOS, then reinstall windows. If you have windows already installed then this will not work so you should change this setting first and then reformat.

As always when reformatting, do not run the setup that says it will save your data, that never works. Wipe the whole drive with a clean install when you do this to make sure it works.

You mean AHCI? Is it normally set as such or do you have to set it manually in the bios?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojita;13358334 
You mean AHCI? Is it normally set as such or do you have to set it manually in the bios?

yes i meant AHCI, sorry about any confusion. Usually you need to set it yourself. My mobo is decently new and I had to set it manually. The SB mobos may do it automatically but I am not sure and would at least check that it is set correctly since it takes no time at all! smile.gif
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post #8 of 25
Please download the following

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bluescreenview_setup.exe

Run it then click options. Tick show drivers in stack then click on the crash dump. The files in red post they're names here
post #9 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojita;13354547 
I was upgrading my system this past weekend.

I was adding

XigmaTek Dark Knight
AMD 6950
Crucial C300
Western Digital 1.5 TB

to the system in my sig.

After having a lot of trouble getting everything together, I went to install Windows 7. Everything was going fine until it rebooted the first time. As it was loading up, the system seemed to reboot again during the startup sending me back to the start screen for motherboard. A screen was brought up saying that the system did not recover correctly and asked me whether I wanted to go to the recovery manager or start windows normally. I started normally and the setup for the rest of Windows 7 went fine. I later had problems during installing of drivers or updates. The system would sometimes crash like during installation and bring up a screen asking me whether I wanted to do the recovery manager other times a BSOD would happen. I could not find a single log or dump that would tell me why these things were happening.

The other problem I had was that Windows 7 would boot fast but the USB devices didn't seem to turn on until later. Unplugging some of the usb drives seemed to help the Mouse and Keyboard boot faster, but if the extarnal hard drive is connected Windows 7 which should load fast from the SSD instead lags. I am wondering if it is possible that I didn't plug something in that I needed to and the USB devices are not all getting enough power.

I'm going to try and burn Windows 7 again to see if that might help at all and reformat the drive.

I'm wondering if perhaps the latter problems are being caused because my Power Supply can't provide enough juice for my computer. It's a 650 Watt, which I think would be enough. If the power supply indeed wasn't enough, I thought my Graphics card would just not work at all.

Any help at all would be very appreciated.

Man I am having the very same usb issue. Windows boots in like 5 seconds from the time you see the logo however usb does not work for 1-2 minutes. Oddest thing I have seen in a long time. Kind of defeats fast book up if you can do anything. Plugged in a ps2 KB and it worked so it is not a hard freeze or anything like that. It is almost as if the comp boots so fast usb cant wake up in time ? *** ? Put in my old drive boot up Windows 7 and all is well. How could something on the SATA II but mess with usb wake up at windows boot ? Mouse and KB work in the visual bios of this board so it is a windows driver issue? Does not make a lick of sense.

Windows 7 64
MSI-P67-GD55
OCZ ONYX 120gb SSD(purchased yesterday)
post #10 of 25
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Here's an update

I did all of the things I detailed earlier.

I also went home and set the SATA to AHCI. The problem I learned right after that is that my cdrom does not like to boot anything from CD at the bios while in AHCI mode. I had to switch it back to IDE to boot the windows 7 installation.

I went through the Windows 7 installation. The installation did not blue screen during the first reboot which I was happy about, but it did it on the last reboot before th escreen where it says Windows 7 is preparing your desktop and installing drivers. I selected "start windows normally" and the install went fine the rest of the way.

Next was installing all of the drivers and updates that were needed. After installing the AMD Drivers and rebooting the system had a bsod during restart (I believe). I then started Windows 7 normally. I first updated the windows update drivers that just microsoft recommended. These installed fine and restarted. I then chose two that were not selected by default (I think one was an optional one), on restart it BSOD my computer. I did microsoft session restore when it asked me to. Creative X-fi drivers installed fine this time (This was the first thing I thought I may have damaged/fried) .I then installed Service Pack 1, which went fine.

The thing that is odd is this: I first had Windows Vista partitioned on one of the drives on my computer. When the Windows 7 RC1 first came out I installed it on another drive and dual booted. When the beta was over and Windows 7 came out I then reformatted the RC1 partition and put the full version of Windows 7 Professional to replace it. So from then on at startup I had the option in 30 seconds to boot up Windows 7 or Windows Vista. During the first recent installation of the Windows 7 going on the SSD, I formatted the Windows 7 partition on the hard disk drive. The thing that was weird was that as windows 7 was installing and rebooting from the bsod recovery, it brought up a screen to dual boot two different Windows 7 paritions. Windows Vista was not there. Then when windows 7 finished installing on the SSD, a dual boot option was never there on startup anymore and the computer just booted right into Windows 7 on the SSD. Even right clicking my computer and going to properties-> advanced options Windows 7 was the only parition selectable in the which partition to boost first drop down.

This morning I ran the Windows 7 install disc next and went to the repair option. As it was scanning for repairs, it said that one of the boot items was missing and that it could repair Windows Vista. Now Windows 7 and Windows Vista are both selectable at startup now (Windows Vista says "Windows Vista (Recovered)").

When I get home I'm going to run the windows installation disc one more time to use the repair option and see if there is anything else wrong with the computer it can find.

If the computer seems stable from there on I might stick with this partition.

I took a picture of one of the BSOD screens (I selected in Windows 7 not to automatically reboot the system during an error). When I get to my cell phone I'll try and upload it if that will help figure out what is wrong.
Edited by Trojita - 5/3/11 at 1:15pm
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