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Each outcome has a likely chance of occuring and everyone has the right to their own opinion.
Don't forget that one opinion has history to back up its prediction.

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post #32 of 59
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P.S. land-line providers, internet providers, and cell phone providers track your location. Wanna sue them too? Idiots are idiots... they just see a chance to sue for some money and jump in.
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In the exact same boat. Cell phones and cellular providers have been doing this for years. Only now, since everyone are sue happy madmen, do people all of the sudden care.
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People are stupid.

Of course cellphones track our location. And of course, the companies keep that info.

If your cellphone is on, they can track you if someone calls you. That's how you get your calls. Need to call out? Well, you need to be connected to them to do that, and location is easy from figuring out tower signal strengths.

Guess what? You use the internet? You can be track. That's how info gets to your computer, have to know what to send it to.

Don't like being on camera? Don't walk around where there is business. Most of them have cameras that can get pictures of you. Red Light cameras? Sure, they can get your picture.

The better the tech gets, the easier we are to track. If you got a problem with that, do not use the internet, do not use cellphones, and do not go outside.

Otherwise, accept it, and move on. Pandora's box has been opened.
Difference being that cellphone service providers MUST retain location info for police/law enforcement, and also, there are provisions for what the provider is allowed to use that info for (i.e., they're technically not allowed to transfer or sell it without your explicit knowledge and consent).

The difference is that this location info is being transferred to a private company/entity, not retained for law enforcement, for who knows what purpose.

I don't think the lawsuit honestly has much of a chance given that you are notified of the location-based services option upon start-up of the phone, and have the ability to opt out if you want. This seems fueled more by the apple discovery than anything. If anything, the android issue is far more obvious to the user than the apple ios issue.
    
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Just by HAVING a cell phone plan you've given much more sensitive information to your phone provider than you're giving Google/Apple and your geographic location is utterly useless in comparison. That, and Androids give you the (rather clearly labeled) option of disabling it to begin with. If you don't like it, disable it and be done with it. I just find it annoying that people make a much bigger deal about it than what it is. "
Yup. That article about TomTom reporting speeders to the police is shocking.

Privacy will be lost, sure, but it's mostly being done for the better of mankind.
Privacy, what's that? But seriously the second Tom Tom's shipped with the voice aloud when I'm going over the speed limit feature I was suspicious.
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Difference being that cellphone service providers MUST retain location info for police/law enforcement, and also, there are provisions for what the provider is allowed to use that info for (i.e., they're technically not allowed to transfer or sell it without your explicit knowledge and consent).

The difference is that this location info is being transferred to a private company/entity, not retained for law enforcement, for who knows what purpose.

I don't think the lawsuit honestly has much of a chance given that you are notified of the location-based services option upon start-up of the phone, and have the ability to opt out if you want.
It might... Only if it's anything like apple's where opt-ing out of the tracking doesn't opt you out. But honestly they'll probably wind up saving themselves the headache of further proceedings and settle for the $50,000,000 and a new firmware version.

Geographical information is even stored in your photos. Heck my 5 year old cell phone stores latitude and longitude info in the EXIF data.
If you're paranoid about that (I am too lol) http://www.ehow.com/how_7662952_remo...on-photos.html
Removing EXIF data also saves filesize.

It all goes back to companies can do what they want and whenever they want to your stuff just look at the PS3 and the OtherOS removal.
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Julie Brown and Kayla Molaski are just looking for more spending money. Probably anti-coporate america
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The fact that google cares so much about my whereabouts shows that they love me <3
 
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Ok, so sure, google is a rich company, but remember that 50M is a lot of money.
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Aren't you given the option to opt in or out of location tracking?
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Aren't you given the option to opt in or out of location tracking?
Yes, rendering the lawsuit basically debunked.

Upon first bootup of any Android device:

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Yes, rendering the lawsuit basically debunked.

Upon first bootup of any Android device:

That's what I thought, and if you want to disable it you also have the option to do so later on.

People these days....
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completely harmless intent of advertising? Mail bombs?
again.....how is our location tracking aids harmless advertising?......when i go to McDonalds, does "it" send me emails on how to loose weight and eat healthy?......when i go to an auto repair shop, does "it" send me deals on a new car?......when i go to an adult store, does "it" redirect me to Zoosk everytime i go online?.....what exactly does "it" do?......i don't understand
    
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