Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › HTPC › TV Tuner card
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

TV Tuner card

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Hows it going everyone? Today im on the market for a Tuner card i can throw in my rig so i can watch tv and record shows and such. But thing is, i have no clue where to start! Ive been doing research and there is different kinds of cards, like digital, hybrid, dual, and so on.

My question is: what should i get? i dont want to break the bank, but i just want to be able to record and watch shows in 1080i or 1080p (1080i seems to be popular with these) on my 25in 1080p monitor.

Any advice is greatly appreciated and thank you!

Also, how does this look?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116028
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 9
That's a good tuner. It'll work with HD broadcast TV via antenna, or analog and Clear QAM cable. QAM HD channels will generally only be your local stations, no premium channels like HBO, Showtime etc. It's a single tuner, so you can only watch or record one program at a time. The HVR-2250 is dual tuner, so you could watch one show while recording another.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6700 @ 3.3 GHz ASUS P5N-D 750i SLi MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GB G.Skill 4GB PQ 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WDCaviar Black Intel X25-V Lite-On DH-4O1S Blu-Ray OCZ Vendetta 2 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Vista Ultimate x64 SP2 Samsung 245BW Logitech G11 Corsair HX520W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec P182 Logitech G5 Rev. 2 Allsop Widescreen Mousepad X-Fi Xtreme Music 
AudioOther
Audio-Technica ATH-A700 Logitech G13 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6700 @ 3.3 GHz ASUS P5N-D 750i SLi MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GB G.Skill 4GB PQ 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WDCaviar Black Intel X25-V Lite-On DH-4O1S Blu-Ray OCZ Vendetta 2 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Vista Ultimate x64 SP2 Samsung 245BW Logitech G11 Corsair HX520W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec P182 Logitech G5 Rev. 2 Allsop Widescreen Mousepad X-Fi Xtreme Music 
AudioOther
Audio-Technica ATH-A700 Logitech G13 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your input! and is it worth the extra 50 dollars to get a dual tuner? and is there any benefit to that one then the one i posted, besides the fact its a dual tuner?
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 9
They'll both work with Media Center(or other tuner and media software) so you can schedule and record just like a DVR. Dual tuner is nice though, but you may or may not want/need that ability.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6700 @ 3.3 GHz ASUS P5N-D 750i SLi MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GB G.Skill 4GB PQ 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WDCaviar Black Intel X25-V Lite-On DH-4O1S Blu-Ray OCZ Vendetta 2 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Vista Ultimate x64 SP2 Samsung 245BW Logitech G11 Corsair HX520W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec P182 Logitech G5 Rev. 2 Allsop Widescreen Mousepad X-Fi Xtreme Music 
AudioOther
Audio-Technica ATH-A700 Logitech G13 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6700 @ 3.3 GHz ASUS P5N-D 750i SLi MSI N460GTX Hawk 1GB G.Skill 4GB PQ 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WDCaviar Black Intel X25-V Lite-On DH-4O1S Blu-Ray OCZ Vendetta 2 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Vista Ultimate x64 SP2 Samsung 245BW Logitech G11 Corsair HX520W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec P182 Logitech G5 Rev. 2 Allsop Widescreen Mousepad X-Fi Xtreme Music 
AudioOther
Audio-Technica ATH-A700 Logitech G13 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
ah ok.

i have one more question, ive been reading in reviews about channels converting to something else, only question i have is will i be able to record/ watch the channels i get on my cable box? (i think it was referred to a step-up box aka cable box)
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 9
What do you want to watch?
Local over-the-air broadcasts?
Unencrypted Digital Cable (Clear QAM)?
Digital cable in its entirety?

Nowadays, analog tuners aren't worth much since broadcast television and cable are digital now, but it's useful if you have a VCR.
A hybrid or Digital tuner is what you want, Dual tuners will let you tune into 2 channels at once, so you can watch or record 2 programs at the same time. Watch one show while recording another. if you love TV it's totally worth it. One thing to keep in mind is that you can only tune into an unscrambled signals, you can view local channels and basic cable (in my area that only covers 80 channels) unless you hook up a cable box. In my experience, the HD channels are generally scrambled. Some also have radio recievers if you want to listen to music.

A few companies have started making CableCARD tuners for PCs that will let you tune into the scrambled digital cable channels without needing a cable box if you rent a CableCARD from your cable provider and is generally a lot cheaper than their boxes ($2 for me) The selection is limited at the moment. You can pick up a ATI digital cable wonder off ebay (it supports 1 stream and is now a depreciated product, but it works and can be had for 80-100 bucks) and theres the Ceton InfiniTV 4 for $400 if you join the beta prograam (or eventually with stock firmware) you can expose the tuner to the network and view it on any PC on the network. Get that if you REALLY love TV. If you are looking to the future, Silicon Dust is partnering with Hauppage to bring both a USB 3 stream tuner box and a networked version of the same, and Ceton is going to be releasing a cheaper 2 stream card and an external 4 stream box.

Remember a few things: While HD cable is on the rise, the majority of channels are still standard definition (480p), so don't be surprised if you get recordings that aren't in HD.

The tuner Stillhouse linked is a good one 2 tuners and an FM radio. If you want to watch TV from afar you might also consider getting a remote (and reciever, the card has a port for an IR reciever)

edit: Hey stop posting while I'm posting
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emerican View Post
i have one more question, ive been reading in reviews about channels converting to something else, only question i have is will i be able to record/ watch the channels i get on my cable box? (i think it was referred to a step-up box aka cable box)
What do you mean channels converting to something else? You will be able to record channels from your cable box if it is connected to you tuner card, just remember that you have to set the box to the right channel yourself.
Edited by BirdofPrey - 5/2/11 at 7:57pm
Sierpinski
(9 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6500 Gigabyte H170-WiFi Radeon Nano 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 Memory 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 950 Pro Cryorig C7 Windows 10 Pro Silverstone Strider Gold 450W Fully Modular 
Case
Fractal Design Node 202 
  hide details  
Reply
Sierpinski
(9 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6500 Gigabyte H170-WiFi Radeon Nano 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 Memory 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 950 Pro Cryorig C7 Windows 10 Pro Silverstone Strider Gold 450W Fully Modular 
Case
Fractal Design Node 202 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdofPrey View Post
What do you want to watch?
Local over-the-air broadcasts?
Unencrypted Digital Cable (Clear QAM)?
Digital cable in its entirety?
Im not really sure, I have a coax cable coming out of the wall into my cable box, and i can get HD channels along with standard def channels. So say if I had the coax coming from the cable box into my pc, would I be able to get those channels, or would it not work. I have a local provider for my cable, not a provider like comcast. Or would something get scrambled on my way to my pc due to the broadcast of the channels.

im still trying to understand this all so sorry if i ask rhetorical question.
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
FX System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6300 GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 Saphire R9 270 A-Data 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
360gb Seagate Windows 8.1 I-INC 25in. Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON Z 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair 500w Semi Modular Silverstone PS07-B Logitech G9 Steelseries Siberia v2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 9
If you want to mimic your cable box, then you need a cable card based tuner. If you just want ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. then you don't. The cheapest is the ATI card that is being pulled out of pre-built PCs and dumped on eBay. The Ceton card is really the only other option at this time. Would love a 2 stream card that's affordable and supports Comcast.
post #9 of 9
The tuner card in your PC behaves exactly like the one in your TV. You can plug your cable box into your computer and it will work just fine. It's the cable box doing the tuning in that case, so remember to change the channel on that. If you get a dual tuner card, you are going to need a second cable box for the second tuner. Either tuner can also be plugged straight into the cable coming into your house without the box, but you won't get as many channels; in that case the computer is doing the tuning.

P.S. don't forget to buy additional coax cables and splitters if you need them. installing all your stuff then finding you you have to drop by radio shack for a cable is pain in the ass.

P.P.S. You can find lot's of information regarding windows media center and hardware such as tuners at TheGreenButton.com (it now redirects to the Microsoft experts community, but it's the same people, same forum).
Edited by BirdofPrey - 5/2/11 at 8:27pm
Sierpinski
(9 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6500 Gigabyte H170-WiFi Radeon Nano 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 Memory 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 950 Pro Cryorig C7 Windows 10 Pro Silverstone Strider Gold 450W Fully Modular 
Case
Fractal Design Node 202 
  hide details  
Reply
Sierpinski
(9 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6500 Gigabyte H170-WiFi Radeon Nano 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 Memory 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 950 Pro Cryorig C7 Windows 10 Pro Silverstone Strider Gold 450W Fully Modular 
Case
Fractal Design Node 202 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: HTPC
Overclock.net › Forums › Specialty Builds › HTPC › TV Tuner card