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I'm now thinking about just going for the blacks since most pros use them.
In my opinion, that should never be the criteria that you base a purchase off of. Pros don't necessarily use a product because it's good and give them an advantage, it's because a company endorses them and provides them with said products (for example Team EG for SC2 is sponsored by Steelseries, which is why the players use black switch mechanicals). You should pick a product based on what you think you will like and will fit your needs. This is especially true in this case for keyboard switches, since everyone's preference is different and certain switches feel better to different people.
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I agree with wongster. You should pick a keyboard that you think will be good for you. If you unfortunately don't have the chance to try the switches yourself in a store, you will need to take a guess and choose with the information you gathered about the specs of the keyboard.

It is true that many pro gamers are getting paid or sponsored by hardware manufacturers but it is not the case of all players. The right switch for you is the one you feel the most comfortable with. Keyboards are like mouses and mousepads, it is fun to have a good product that feels comfortable... but you can achieve the same results (or almost) with a regular product.

PS : The notorious Slayers'Boxer use a Filco keyboard with MX Blue switches, which are more similar to brown switches than black switches. Also, a pro gamer with a membrane keyboard is as good as a pro with a mechanical keyboard.
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Deverica Wolf, I have a Steelseries 6Gv2 and have had no problems with the keys falling off (though I don't doubt that has happened), and the Cherry MX Black switches do not feel loose in any way. I like them because I can really feel the resistance of the switch as I press down on it. The stiffness and linearity also make it easier to keep a key pressed partially (just before the activation point), so that you don't have to press as much for the action to register. Plus once you get used to the feel of the switches you can press them without bottoming-out, which makes them feel even more responsive. As for people who say their hands "get tired" with black switches, I wouldn't take the opinion of babies seriously.
See, now I am wanting one badly. I DO want my keys to be as respovive as possible for FPSs. You see, am I'm looking the Cherrys up, I am realizing more what I want in a gaming keyboard. I want to be QUICK when I game. Quick and evil! I think I am gonna go with it...if it is truly no good for RTSs, I will grab a brown or blue down the line. I was thinking about how some people claim their fingers get tired...but I don't want a less responsive keyboard just for this reason. If I have to take breaks, I will.

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This one : CM Spawn
I would like a review of it as it has been tempting me.

I should have said what it was, sorry.

The Coolmaster claw mouse called: CM Spawn
Yeah, this mouse looks great and was suggested to be in the mouse forum. The only problems I have with it is there is no custom DPI, no extra side buttons, and the red is ugly (IMO) and does not go with my case. The custom DPI is a real bummer for me. I want to customize how I feel I need my mouse movement/speed, especially with my big screen!

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Lots of text.
Yes, you people are right regarding the pros and sponsorship. If I could try all the switches out, I would. I was just saying how if many people are using it for the stated positive reasons, such as what XenoCrash was saying about the blacks...I think I could adapt to a new style of keyboard if it will make me quicker. That is all I care about in FPSs, actually. Quickness and efficacy of hitting the keys. Responsiveness.

I just launched old Half-Life Team Fortress Classic and while my HP keyboard is pretty responsive and I don't have to press the button all the way down to get action, it doesn't feel great. It feels a bit...off...delayed.

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The stiffness and linearity also make it easier to keep a key pressed partially (just before the activation point), so that you don't have to press as much for the action to register.
That's the problem with my keyboard! There is no resistance so I can't just press the button a little even though it would let me to. I have to bottom out for proper flow. This sounds great for me!

EDIT: I am taking a second look at The with red switches again. I heard they are like blacks but without the stiffness. I don't know. I'll look it up some more.
Edited by Deverica Wolf - 5/4/11 at 1:19pm
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I have those on my Filco at home and they are a perfect fit.
Great! I hope you've got a good eye because I can't return them should I make a purchase.

I wonder if they would fit on the Leopolds? Well, don't matter if I'm gonna go with a black. Shame Leopold don't make black switches. I've heard their keys last longer than Filco's keys.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!
Edited by Deverica Wolf - 5/4/11 at 1:44pm
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Great! I hope you've got a good eye because I can't return them should I make a purchase.

I wonder if they would fit on the Leopolds? Well, don't matter if I'm gonna go with a black. Shame Leopold don't make black switches. I've heard their keys last longer than Filco's keys.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!

I'll pop em on my Leo's when I get home for you.
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I will comment a bit more since I was almost in the same situation as you(wanting a mechnical keyboard, with very few informations, mainly to play keyboard intensive FPS games like Unreal Tournament)

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EDIT: I am taking a second look at The Filco Majestouch-2 NKR 104 ASCII with red switches again. I heard they are like blacks but without the stiffness. I don't know. I'll look it up some more.
This is the keyboard I ordered recently and that I am still waiting to receive. I had the chance to try the blue switch(g80-3000LSCRC-2) at my friends house and I liked the noise but I wasn't sure about the tactile feel(even if it is more easy to press than a membrane keyboard). Also, I knew my wife would get very annoyed at the dactylo sound the blue switch makes. I suggest you visit www.mrinterface.com/simulators and try the differents sounds by yourself(I don't know if all the sounds are correct, but I can confirm the g80-3000 is accurate).

If you notice the pressure curve for the blue and brown switches, the peak force(60g) is the same for the tactile feel and for bottoming out. I doubt my finger would use less force to press the switch between the middle and the end of the key travel, so I figured it was better for me to use a linear switch. I might have thought differently if the tactile feel was after the actuation of the key, which would have made it possible for my finger to surf faster on the keyboard not breaking that tactile feel wave.

I was left with black switches and red switches, so I figured I would go with red ones since the black ones need 80g peak(bottoming out) and I would be always bottoming out in FPS games.

With all that being said, I don't know yet If I will prefer the red over the blue, but I am sure that all mechanical keyboard are an improvement over membrane ones and that in the end it comes to preferences.
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