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So, is it clear if they have the actual credit card numbers or do they have an encrypted/hashed version? Please Sony, don't tell me you backed up credit card information in plaintext.
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post #102 of 118
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Originally Posted by Waffleboy View Post
So, is it clear if they have the actual credit card numbers or do they have an encrypted/hashed version? Please Sony, don't tell me you backed up credit card information in plaintext.
They were encrypted.
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nothing was encrypted except for the credit card numbers. sony already admitted that passwords & data were just plain txt. As for the credit card numbers being encrypted for people as smart as these hackers im sure they were not encrypted for long.
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post #104 of 118
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nothing was encrypted except for the credit card numbers. sony already admitted that passwords & data were just plain txt. As for the credit card numbers being encrypted for people as smart as these hackers im sure they were not encrypted for long.
Credit cards were encrypted, passwords were stored using a cryptographic hash function but were not stored as plain text.
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Damn Sony became unpopular in this forum, its funny to see all the little kiddies jump on hating.....anything relevant.

I dont own a ps3 but that really sucks for the people who bought them. This really seems like a more coordinated effort, more then just some "hackers".
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post #106 of 118
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This really seems like a more coordinated effort, more then just some "hackers".
Agreed. Since the first day of the outage and all the news from Sony about this as it drags on I get the feeling that Sony is just trying to create the "unhackable" console.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was never a breach. Nobody hacked PSN, nothing was compromised.

Sony just using some "boogeymen" hackers as an excuse to take their network down, retool it, and force a new firmware update on anyone that wants to get onto PSN ever again.

Still want to use a custom firmware on your PS3, well go ahead, just don't plan to get online with it. The new firmware update coming will probably be "unhackable" like the last PS3 firmware update was said to be.
    
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post #107 of 118
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They were encrypted.
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nothing was encrypted except for the credit card numbers. sony already admitted that passwords & data were just plain txt. As for the credit card numbers being encrypted for people as smart as these hackers im sure they were not encrypted for long.
We don't know if THESE were encrypted. Sony was adamant about their PSN database being encrypted, but this newly discovered breached outdated SOE database (completely seperate) it seems otherwise.

Judging by the fact they said "we LOST 12,7000 CC account numbers" - I think it's a pretty safe NO: these 2007 numbers were not encrypted or poorly encrypted.

Just speculation though.
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post #108 of 118
PS3 is dead, It has always failed online from day one with flash drive hacks... I'm not a fanboy of Xbox but it is true... I don't see Sony/PSN coming online for a very long time because honestly.. the only way to get the hackers out ONCE THEY FIX THIS is redo there entire system and that's going to take a really long time.. when it does get back online its going to be back to square 1 with all new bugs/lag.
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And MS doesn't do the same thing with XBOX? Nintendo doesn't do the same thing with their devices either? Pfft. Seriously you have no clue what your talking about. None. Don't even get me started with Apple and their closed ecosystem.

The only difference is the fact Sony had the guts to do something about it. Don't even get me started on "its my hardware I can do what ever I want with it" because again that's dead wrong. When you buy and use a PS3 you are agreeing to a term of service - don't like that term of service? Don't buy the machine. That simple. This is nothing new MS has the same stance with their Xbox.

I agree with this comment but how does one read the term of service when im sure there is none on the box when u buy it.........
 
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Well I just got an email from Sony about all of this stuff, but the only thing that I have bought was a DVD player a year and a half ago, I guess that because I registered it they had my email.
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