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I think the PlayStation is going to die.
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The only difference is the fact Sony had the guts to do something about it. Don't even get me started on "its my hardware I can do what ever I want with it" because again that's dead wrong. When you buy and use a PS3 you are agreeing to a term of service - don't like that term of service? Don't buy the machine. That simple.
Nothing like beating the dead horse as an arguement.

It is doubtful that this is some casual kind of cracking - more of something systematic backed up by some heavy resources.
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Nothing like beating the dead horse as an arguement.

It is doubtful that this is some casual kind of cracking - more of something systematic backed up by some heavy resources.
Regardless. Sony has shown that they do not have the ability to protect the privacy of their customers. Won't be giving them another dollar of my $$$.
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Regardless. Sony has shown that they do not have the ability to protect the privacy of their customers. Won't be giving them another dollar of my $$$.
Bet you've given money to MANY other companies that have had data breaches.
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Originally Posted by ljason8eg View Post
The CC numbers will still be the same on accounts that are still open and it is pretty easy to figure out the new expiration date.
You'd also have to guess the numbers on the back of the card, because they also change.

Unless they get stupid luckly, theyll get flagged way before the 999th try. Most credit card companies disable the card after 3 unsucessful attempts in a row.
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"This information, which was discovered by engineers and security consultants reviewing SOE systems, showed that personal information from approximately 24.6 million SOE accounts may have been stolen, as well as certain information from an outdated database from 2007,"
Quite alot of people, even though it's mentioned in the first several pages, keep missing this.

Though, that's still doesn't change that this is pretty horrible. Sony's main corp will have no problem recovering from the attack, if it hasn't already. But SOE has always sucked, but this is terribad. They've been a sinking ship, and this just blew another hole in them.


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I said it a week ago and I am saying it again. I have heard from insiders the PS4 is cancelled, and the Sony Games Division is mostly getting shut down and restructured to handle the PC side of SOE and some remaining MMORPG games. SGD is currently in $6 billion USD dollar debt, all because of the PS3, which has bombed more than anyone predicted. Once the PS3 hit $3 billion debt, Sony moved it under the SGD wing as an economic strategy, where they could hide it's mounting debt from investors behind all their other products like PSP and MMORPG's. If the PS3 was left out in the open I have heard estimates the debt would really be as high as $8.3 billion. You heard it here first. If you want to be "in the know" on insider information, just listen to me, the PS4 is cancelled. There will not be a PlayStation product for quite some time, maybe never again.


Yet again CorkyFan has no idea what he's saying.
You honestly think that there won't be another PlayStation or even NGP? You're so clueless you have no idea. Do you know how much Sony has invested in the PlayStation name? Between the inhouse developers and all of the research divisions, you honestly think that $3 billion in production costs is a big deal? Ha! You're also forgetting Sony is one of the biggest corporations going, they don't have JUST a division in video games and JUST a division in MMOs (which was sinking long before any of this, which further kills your "inside" garbage).

Also - what possess anyone to think that Sony's game division, of all things, would be axed and not SOE of all things? SOE has been the worst, least popular, and productive division of Sony. Long before this SOE has been quite hated because the MMOs they put out are anything but poor. It's amazing they still even exist to begin with. Yet, your "insider info" claims that Sony's game division is going to be dissolved and only SOE to remain to continue doing their piss poor MMOs? What a laugh. That's senile. The Sony's executives are stupid as hell, but not clinically insane enough to destroy what might be the company's most popular and widespread division and then throw it under the worst one of them all.

Your information sucks and always will. You can't back anything up, you make wild claims with NO substantial foundation to support it, and it just keeps piling on.

I'll bring up how your "inside" information also claimed Sony hosted the CFW on their own website and how "its just a simple hex edit to change it to developer console" like you've constantly claimed, but yet can't provide proof of.

This is also fantastic:
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UPDATE: Because every PS3 can access your data, once PSN came back up in Japan this past weekend, a different group of hackers were able to steal another 12,700 credit cards and 21 million more user accounts.
TOTALLY false again Corky. Not even a single word of this was true. Are you ever going to give up on your garbage?

1)It wasn't a different group of hackers
2)It wasn't even a different attack (it was the SAME one)
3)It had NOTHING to do with Japan's PSN.
4)Not every PS3 can access your data, you're so clueless.
5)It wasn't just another 12.7k credit cards, it was 4 year old information.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/02/so...redit-card-nu/

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Update, 9:03PM EST: SOE has provided us with the following statement, in which it confirms that its user data was stolen as part of the original intrusion -- not a second attack. "While the two systems are distinct and operated separately, given that they are both under the SONY umbrella, there is some degree of architecture that overlaps. The intrusions were similar in nature. This is NOT a second attack; new information has been discovered as part of our ongoing investigation of the external intrusion in April."

Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 5/3/11 at 12:39pm
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COME ON!!!! thats bull@!#$ why are they getting attacked like this!!
You sound mad. UMADBRO?
    
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You'd also have to guess the numbers on the back of the card, because they also change.

Unless they get stupid luckly, theyll get flagged way before the 999th try. Most credit card companies disable the card after 3 unsucessful attempts in a row.
Someone pointed this out earlier, but a lot of transactions don't require you to enter in those digits, just the card number.
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Someone pointed this out earlier, but a lot of transactions don't require you to enter in those digits, just the card number.
Sure - but you're forgetting that this isn't like $10 purchases being claimed here. And they're out of the country depending on the claim.
According to the fraud claims of $4k+ and stuff from places like Germany, the numbers are indeed necessary. $10 purchase? Sure it's not necessary then, but $4,000 is absolutely necessary or it's going to get denied or checked on. Yet alone the fact it's out of the country.

Hell, I've been on Newegg and Tigerdirect and most of the time I can't order a damned thing on there without getting a call from the CC asking to verify it. It's not because Newegg and TD are secure like that, but the CC is.

My parents for example always have hard times with the CC because they always get blocked at the most inconvenient times.

My dad goes away on hunting trips 5-6 times a year. During his trips to Canada, Africa, and New Zealand - each time he's gotten a CC problem because he's using one of them there. He's learned now, over the past two years of problems, that he needs to call before he goes to those places before using the cards or just simply not using it at all.

The reason I mention all this is because I'm usually the one who gets the blame first for all these problems lol. My dad will be in Africa getting all mad at me over the damn phone meanwhile it's just because the company is the one who's giving him hell.
Luckily, I can't be blamed anymore because I've got my own and I dare not use my parents.
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Sure - but you're forgetting that this isn't like $10 purchases being claimed here. And they're out of the country depending on the claim.
According to the fraud claims of $4k+ and stuff from places like Germany, the numbers are indeed necessary. $10 purchase? Sure it's not necessary then, but $4,000 is absolutely necessary or it's going to get denied or checked on. Yet alone the fact it's out of the country.

Hell, I've been on Newegg and Tigerdirect and most of the time I can't order a damned thing on there without getting a call from the CC asking to verify it. It's not because Newegg and TD are secure like that, but the CC is.

My parents for example always have hard times with the CC because they always get blocked at the most inconvenient times.

My dad goes away on hunting trips 5-6 times a year. During his trips to Canada, Africa, and New Zealand - each time he's gotten a CC problem because he's used it there. He's learned now, over the past two years of problems, that he needs to call before he goes to those places before using the cards or just simply not using it at all.

The reason I mention all this is because I'm usually the one who gets the blame first for all these problems lol. My dad will be in Africa getting all mad at me over the damn phone meanwhile it's just because the company is the one who's giving him hell.
Luckily, I can't be blamed anymore because I've got my own and I dare not use my parents.
Yeah it's going to be harder with real CC's, but a lot of people just used their debit cards.
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