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Community college? High school?
Textbooks are actually really useless for intro classes.
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post #12 of 28
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I wouldn't use one. I don't buy textbooks period. As long as you attend class, most of the time books are a massive waste.
Community college? High school?
Don't be a jerk, I generally don't buy textbooks either, though there are some I have to get. Not everyone relies on them for learning the material. And btw this is coming from a third year CS major with a 4.0 in major GPA from UW Madison, so don't say that people who don't use textbooks must go to "crappy" schools.

As for the e reader thing, I agree with the guy who said it's the software holding them back. Cognitive mapping can be adapted for digital devices as long as the software is designed for it.
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Community college? High school?
4 year university. I'm finished with my BS in CompSci as of today. I used maybe 8 textbooks throughout all of college. Of them, I actually read 2-3 chapters. The rest of their use was just for doing homework.
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4 year university. I'm finished with my BS in CompSci as of today. I used maybe 8 textbooks throughout all of college. Of them, I actually read 2-3 chapters. The rest of their use was just for doing homework.
Heh, so perhaps it's just us CS guys not using textbooks .
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They have a valid point, but the cognitive mapping issues can be easily addressed.

When I was taking my databases course I had a digital version of the textbook, and I could remember where a section was just from the position of the scroll bar.

The real issue is how the pages are displayed. The Kindle has a low-res greyscale screen with a terrible refresh rate.

With the right software and something like an Eee Pad Transformer the numbers would go way up.
The kindle has an e-ink screen that has no refresh rate at all. Your confusing tablets with e-readers.
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My highschool teacher, who is also a college university english professor (it's amazing how many job titles and professions she juggles at once), wants Kindles in our highschool for all the grades.
She said she had contacted Amazon for just reference pricing, and she said that Amazon would be able to provide Kindles for a ton of students at not only a discount but also a discount on books. Books could be offered one book price for about 5~ students. That's incredible, imagine how much money is being saved in the long run. Time too - instead of ordering mass books - bam: instantly there for 5 students at one single price.
She is even considering bringing this to the local university too for consideration. It's quite interesting. And to think, I kinda started it because I originally showed her the Kindle then she got one immediately after and now she's doing all this.

It's sad how my HS is doing this now, as well as new computer labs and all this new tech stuff, after I'm now graduating. I hate my luck.

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Community college? High school?
The college I'm going to (lol not community, and is direct partner ship with IBM down the road) uses maybe 3 or 4 textbooks for it's CS classes. In fact, I dare call them textbooks because the textbooks I have now in HS are way larger from what I was able to look at. All the real study, reading, and such is done either through the professor's material or projects done hands on with Linux servers and such. The books are merely reference for the most part.
I can't FREAKIN wait to ditch this 25-30 pound backpack I have now for HS.
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post #17 of 28
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The college I'm going to (lol not community, and is direct partner ship with IBM down the road)
What school would this be by chance? I'm trying to decide which school I should choose for computer engineering and right now I'm going with UW Madison only because its the state college but I like options, and good ones. Feel free to PM me.
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post #18 of 28
screw e book readers. you school kids need to haul 2-3 400 page hardback textbooks liek i did when i was in college.

keeps you fit so you can eat more greasy food and drink beer while in college.
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I guarantee the price of the e-book would be no different than the printed version. These textbook companies are a bunch of crooks, who pay off school administrators to implement a structure in which textbooks are replaced every year.

The reality is math hasn't changed in 100 years. There need not be a new version of a math book every year.

Basic science doesn't change on a yearly basis, there is no need for revised editions.

English hasn't changed in 100 years, there is no need for revised english books.

Bottom line is there should be rules set in place that keep a certain edition of a book in circulation for no less than 6 years. Having new editions of textbooks every year is ridiculous and should be illegal, it takes advantage of students and is more or less extortion. There is also no reason that books should cost $80 or more.
Yeah, but it keeps the economy going! ...right?
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They said that about almost everything at one time.
But the thing is, the transition from printed media to digital eBook media is not the same as other transitions.

For example, it's very easy to transform mobile computing to tablets and smartphones. It's been done already. Because it's something that the population can easily accept and it's something that can easily be implemented (partially because there weren't any widespread tablets/smartphones prior to 2007ish)

Meanwhile, taking into consideration how many textbooks are already present and implementation of them all, it's very difficult to ask an entire population to transition from a media that has already been working to a media that not only might be more expensive, but would also take a lot more effort to maintain.
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