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Hi all, it has been a while since I have been around. With my college graduation looming and summer close at hand it is time for a new project! Nothing crazy this time folks... my peltier days are over. I won't let too much slip early (and some details aren't set in stone), but the system will be a firecracker!

So for the loop I was figuring on using 2x 140mm slim radiators, 5.25" bay reservoir and an mcp350 pump which will cool an i7-2600 and a gtx 570 (or gtx 470 or HD 6850) with EK blocks. The thing is that I don't want to use a full length video card. For the most part that would leave me with few options. However, the overpriced EVGA Hydro gtx 470 is only 9" which is acceptable. I would use a gtx 570, but I can't find any full cover blocks for non-reference cards. If I can't find an alternative I will revert to the HD 5770 (which I would rather not do, because I think I can fit more power).

So if anyone has any ideas on how I could fit something more powerful without having to buy that overpriced gtx 470, let me know. Also, I would love to know more about my loop. I will most likely micromanage my airflow to only flow through the radiators and out the back via the PSU and/or extra fan. This would hopefully allow me to mount the radiators without having to mount fans to them directly. So by only allowing air in through the radiators will the air flow be enough to handle the heat? I also don't plan to overclock the CPU this time, but the GPU would be nice to overclock in the future if I need more.

Thanks in advance and stay tuned! Only 2 weeks 'til freedom! (well sort of until I have more than a part time job )
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Sorry to bring it up again, but I really am quite new to water cooling and could use some input on this loop. res -> mcp350 -> i7-2600 under EK supreme -> gtx 570 (or gtx 470 or hd 5770, length dependent) -> slim 1x 140mm rad -> second slim 140mm rad -> res.

I am going for low noise, so low airflow and acoustic material are a given. Is the loop too ambitious?
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post #3 of 6
I think you should be okay with two radiators, i would be cautious bout not running any fans on them however.

It will be difficult to get the airflow to go through the radiators, but if you can do it i think it would work very well, the case would act like a fan shroud (fan shrouds are used to make sure airflow through a radiators even across all the fins)

Personally i would mount fans straight to the radiators, but if you can make sure the radiators get good airflow then go ahead, it would work well.

As for your problem with graphics cards, you can get non reference cards and then use a gpu only water block and put air heat sinks on ram. Look up the MCW80 i believe that is a generic gpu block.

Hope i helped.
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post #4 of 6
Congrats on graduating (I just did too)!

I think it would be almost impossible to successfully cool those radiators without active fans, even low RPM ones. The static pressure through radiators is what creates the cooling action, and barely any cases will have enough pressure to enable there to be enough flow. In my HAF-X, if I taped up the holes on the sides of the radiator, the front bays, and the back ventilation, with it's 2x220mm and 1x140mm intake fan, I could see the case building some pressure up, but even that's a stretch. I think you should just take advantage of the benefit that 140mm provides in that the fans are quieter.

For the video card, it looks like coolingconfigurator.com shows that EK makes a full cover 570 block that fits a gainward phantom card, which is non-reference. They also show non-full-cover parts as well, so maybe that can help too.

The loop order looks good, and the 140 rads sound great, but again, I just can't see it working without direct fans on them. Maybe you'll tape up your case to make it work.
post #5 of 6
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Thanks for the advice. I think I will just add a couple fans to the radiators in this case. Especially if I do get a gtx570 to fit; It will need all the cooling it can get. The gainward card is non-reference, but still too long. Galaxy makes a 9.5" card that would work, but I can't find any pictures of the PCB to tell if it would work with full cover. that leaves me with just the gpu block. I think that would open more options to me anyway. Thanks for the help and look for the build in about a month!
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Well I am going to pull the trigger sometime tonight or tomorrow and wanted to see what you all thought of these items:

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