Originally Posted by smash_mouth01
No they just charge that for an unlocked multi and no speed increase to CPU speed.
Actually, the unlocked CPU's do have the full HD3000 graphics instead of the HD2000. A few days ago you would rightfully say "so what ? You can't use it with a P67 board", but now that the Z68 chipset is available, you can, and can benefit from Quick Sync, and more GPU power.
But you are comparing Apples to Oranges. You don't have a point of reference in AMD's lineup to say how much a locked x4 980 would cost. How much is an unlocked CPU worth to you ? They have a whole lot of unlocked CPU's that can't really overclock that differently from each other. It doesn't matter if you have a 965BE or a 980BE. As long as it's the 125w version, you'll hit a wall at around 4.2 Ghz on air, and not much more on water. The tech does not allow for more. So, essentially, they are charging $20 for a 100Mhz speed bump.
On the other hand, you are basically implying that an unlocked multiplier is not worth $20 ? Hahahaha.
Unlocked CPU's used to be much more expensive. They only got cheaper because AMD had to resort to that tactic in order to stay competitive with an outdated CPU design. Intel had to follow suit because some people think than an unlocked CPU has the potential to perform better, when in fact that is not a straightforward fact - tell that to all the people who bought and vendors who sold systems based on Core i7's 920 (many times vendor overclocked systems) instead of 965 EE.
So, inadvertently, we all have to thank AMD for that, although it's not entirely straightforward as I said. But I still remember when Athlon FX CPU's sold for more than $700. Yes, seven hundred dollars.
By the way, you can still overclock a locked i5 2500 more than you can probably overclock a Phenom II x4 980, as it allows for 4 speed bins overclock. Unlocked ones can get even more. That difference is worth $20 to many, many people.
The Phenom II X4's are a little bit slower clock for clock than the Core 2 Quads 45nm:
Same clockspeed 955BE vs QX9770 (QX9770, or what you can get by setting the multiplier of a Q9550 to 8 and FSB to 1600) comparison
. AMD wins 5 out of 31 tests.
965BE vs QX9770
(or a Q9550 8x multi and 1600 FSB). Gets closer, but the Intel still wins most (AMD wins 9 out of 31 benchmarks).
970BE vs QX9770
AMD wins 12 out of 26 tests.
(Anand does not have the 975BE in the bench.)
980BE vs QX9770
. AMD wins 18 out of 30 tests.
I'd say they are probably more or less even at 3.5 Ghz with the 970BE or the 3.6Ghz 975BE (probably around the middle of both). That means it has around a 300-400Mhz clockspeed deficit when compared to the Core 2 Quads.