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Hi ,

I have just recently purchased a MSI 560 TI twin frozr II , and was planning to O/C it just like everyone else.

I have installed Furmark , 3d Mark 11 , 3d Mark vantage , Msi Kombustor and Msi Afterburner.
My card default voltage is at 1.012v . And here is what happens .



I O/C the card to 900 mhz ( from 880 mhz ), run 3dMark 11 for a couple of times and and Furmark for a few minutes, Kombustor for a few mins too . It seems to work just fine , no artifact showing up.

And then when I got into Dragon Age 2 , with the highest AA setting, I am starting to get Artifact . I was not happy because majority of the card owner told me they could go up to 950mhz with stock voltage , and here I thought I was unlucky.


So after a couple more testing, I adjust the Card to 950 mhz , and I turn up the voltage this time , from 1.012 , 1.025 , 1.035 , all the way to 1.087v .
It pass the test in Kombustor just fine . But when I turns on Dragon Age 2 again , it gets artifact here n there .

And eventually I have came to a conclusion, my card cannot be overclocked at all (not stably atleast ) ? If this is the case , I consider it as the biggest rip off on my experience ever, since I bought this model to O/C . Can I RMA my card ?


Note : I heard Dragon Age 2 had issues with the Nvidia card, I have the newest driver ,and I heard it works just fine . If it was the driver problem I should be getting artifact at the stock speed too , Surprising if i run the card at stock speed, there is No artifact at all !
Edited by Convael - 5/3/11 at 4:58am
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post #2 of 34
They never claimed the card can OC, so there is no fault with it.
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I am very sure you are helping , at all .
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post #4 of 34
try using OCCT, it will tell u if theres errors w/ ur OC

I used it w/ mine, i never saw anything or had problems but it said i had errors...sure enough after about an hr w/ crysis it messed up lol. After some tampering and w/ OCCT testing I got my clocks and voltages right

I recommend it over Furmark anyday
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Another option is that your card just need a bit more volts.
There is no guarantee that you will get 950mhz below lets say 1.1v.

On the asumption that your card doesn't also give artifacts at stock,
try starting with 1.087v and core at 800mhz, and if run dragon age 2 (don't touch the card memory at all).
If you get artifacts, you might landed on a bad apple.
It happens.
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What is kombuster I saw it in the folder but did not install it
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kombustor is a stress test for the gpu...

is it screen tearing or artifacts? try enabling vsync and triple buffering
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post #8 of 34
DA2 might run better using Direct X9 as I think thats what it offers in the graphics settings_ I get major glitches and bad rendering with DX11 (Updating to the latest 270.xx drivers fixed this issue for me) I suppose its common with DA2_

Run it with DX9 and see how that turns out for you
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What is kombuster I saw it in the folder but did not install it
Kombustor is just Furmark that uses a furry MSI logo as it's main object.

And yeah, OP, no one anywhere guaranteed the card to overclock, it's fully possible to have a subpar chip that refuses to overclock. OCCT is the way to go for checking if it's the card or the game, just set OCCT to shaders x4 and let it run for 15 minutes or until you start seeing errors. If it makes it through 15m without errors, there's something about DA2, which is fully possible considering how terribly it is coded.
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Originally Posted by Convael View Post
Hi ,

I have just recently purchased a MSI 560 TI twin frozr II , and was planning to O/C it just like everyone else.

I have installed Furmark , 3d Mark 11 , 3d Mark vantage , Msi Kombustor and Msi Afterburner.
My card default voltage is at 1.012v . And here is what happens .



I O/C the card to 900 mhz ( from 880 mhz ), run 3dMark 11 for a couple of times and and Furmark for a few minutes, Kombustor for a few mins too . It seems to work just fine , no artifact showing up.

And then when I got into Dragon Age 2 , with the highest AA setting, I am starting to get Artifact . I was not happy because majority of the card owner told me they could go up to 950mhz with stock voltage , and here I thought I was unlucky.


So after a couple more testing, I adjust the Card to 950 mhz , and I turn up the voltage this time , from 1.012 , 1.025 , 1.035 , all the way to 1.087v .
It pass the test in Kombustor just fine . But when I turns on Dragon Age 2 again , it gets artifact here n there .

And eventually I have came to a conclusion, my card cannot be overclocked at all (not stably atleast ) ? If this is the case , I consider it as the biggest rip off on my experience ever, since I bought this model to O/C . Can I RMA my card ?


Note : I heard Dragon Age 2 had issues with the Nvidia card, I have the newest driver ,and I heard it works just fine . If it was the driver problem I should be getting artifact at the stock speed too , Surprising if i run the card at stock speed, there is No artifact at all !
I had to jump in here.

1.) the card is already OCd.

2.) If you couldn't get a stable OC at 900mhz, it doesn't make sense to jump it to 950 and hope for the best. Find a stable voltage at 900. Then up the mhz slightly each test until that voltage is no longer stable. Bump the voltage, and repeat.

3.) Not being able to overclock 100 mhz over the factory overclock doesn't make a card a rip off. When I had my TFII 560 I got to 1ghz stable at 1.087v. Not every card can do that. The performance difference between 900 and 950 isn't significant. I know this is OCN but still.... it's not a rip off if you cant get a stable OC well above the factory OC.

4.) Saying your card can't OC "AT ALL" when you have not incrementally tried to OC it is just plain false. Every chip is going to need a certain level of voltage to reach a certain clock. If you have 950mhz stuck in your head, you might come short of that and you might be disappointed. Doesn't mean you have a faulty card. You can RMA it if you choose to, and wherever you bought it from might even be nice and waive the restocking fee if you ask nicely, but the card isn't defective based on the info you gave. Unless a card is not stable at the stock settings...

5.) DA2 nvidia issues have been fixed with the latest beta drivers, which have gone official last week I believe. I have played DA2 on 4 different 5xx series nvidia cards on those drivers and all have had the problem fixed. The problem, for the record, was purely on "Very High" settings.
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