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AMD (Phenom x4) stock cooler looks good! Let's try against the Gigabyte 3DR-II.

Poll Results: Regardless of loudness, which 1 of these 2 units will cool the CPU more effectively?

Poll expired: May 10, 2011  
  • 90% (9)
    Stock HSF & cooler (for AMD Phenom x4) will do better.
  • 10% (1)
    Gigabyte 3D Rocket II cpu cooler will do better.
10 Total Votes  
post #1 of 19
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Hello, all. I began to sift and search through posts about AMD x4 stock coolers, and quickly grew quite tired of it, so here's a SHINEY NEW POST!!

Perhaps someone has asked this, but I must mention: the AMD stock HSF for their quad-core models looks pretty decent. Check out a review of it here.

Stock cooler for AMD quad-core CPUs (fan side view)


Stock cooler for AMD quad-core CPUs (interface side view)

I have had surprisingly effective/good results using a copper block + 4 heatpipe + aluminum fins configuration, and I have never even tried to use the stock cooler assembly for my AMD 955BE chip.

Since before I ever acquired my 955BE, and still, I am currently using a Gigabyte 3D Rocket II cooler, and it just seems to delivers unsatisfactory performance. Sure, it works, but it's pretty lame, given all its hype. Note: without the fan control knob it has, this thing would be unbearably loud.


Pictured: Gigabyte 3D Rocket II cpu cooler

MY POINT:
I have never actually used my 955BE stock cooler, and I think I should give it a try. I think it might be better! I'll be sure to post temps before and after a switch to the stock HSF assembly. So, for fun, let's take a poll before I swap the coolers, and discuss which we think will outperform the other. I figure it would be fun. Thanks! WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK WILL WIN?
Both fans will be adjusted to full speed, and then to a reasonably quiet speed setting.
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post #2 of 19
Try lapping that stock cooler and putting some proper thermal paste on it, maybe a mod to fit a slightly larger fan?
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post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by appleg33k85 View Post
Try lapping that stock cooler and putting some proper thermal paste on it, maybe a mod to fit a slightly larger fan?
I thought about doing that. I figure a larger fan will require vent work (to adapt fan-to-sink size diff.) and lapping one interface (HSF sink) without lapping the other (CPU sink) isn't much good, so I'd have to lap both, right? I may do that after this experiment.

I bet that a lapped stock cooler would STOMP. I'd have to ditch the stock fan for a quieter one tho.
Edited by Slink - 5/3/11 at 12:31pm
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post #4 of 19
I cant remember where I read it now but I read if you turn the stock coolers fan over it helps temps by a few degrees and also with the noise level of it
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post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by smoket4279` View Post
I cant remember where I read it now but I read if you turn the stock coolers fan over it helps temps by a few degrees and also with the noise level of it
I totally just read that somewhere too. lol. Good post. Everyone knows that it is better to use fans for PULLING air through something rather than PUSHING it through, right? lol well I guess AMD did not know that.
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post #6 of 19
Thats exactly the same cooler shipped with an old retail X2 6000+ i had, never had temp issues with it, but anyway i replaced with a Hyper 212+.
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post #7 of 19
Put 2 stock AMD fans with temp sensors on that PhII cooler, they easily get 6000RPM each.
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post #8 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slink View Post
I totally just read that somewhere too. lol. Good post. Everyone knows that it is better to use fans for PULLING air through something rather than PUSHING it through, right? lol well I guess AMD did not know that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldMX View Post
Thats exactly the same cooler shipped with an old retail X2 6000+ i had, never had temp issues with it, but anyway i replaced with a Hyper 212+.
Well you would think if they have used them that long they would have gotten the fan right this time around. lol
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post #9 of 19
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Thats exactly the same cooler shipped with an old retail X2 6000+ i had, never had temp issues with it, but anyway i replaced with a Hyper 212+.
That Hyper 212+ looks like a nice TRUE-style sink. So did you see improvement after switching to it?


Pictured: Hyper 212 Plus, interface side. Click image to access source page.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ronnin426850 View Post
Put 2 stock AMD fans with temp sensors on that PhII cooler, they easily get 6000RPM each.
W-w-what?? Sounds loud. Like a turbine. Like it might take off. Hahaha

Quote:
Originally Posted by smoket4279` View Post
Well you would think if they have used them that long they would have gotten the fan right this time around. lol

Edited by Slink - 5/3/11 at 12:46pm
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post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slink View Post
W-w-what?? Sounds loud. Like a turbine. Like it might take off. Hahaha
"Regardless of loudness, which 1 of these.."
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