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I'm thinking about upgrading to water cooling next month or so. Right now at 24C ambient, I idle at ~38C and load at 55-56C. If I did go with water, it would be cpu only. I don't know if this is weird, but I really would like to try water because it looks fun and cool, plus I could probably get a higher OC. I don't mind the maintenance that much.

With that being said, I know the rs240 would be sufficient for a cpu-only loop. I'm on a budget (150-175). I know xspc's kits are pretty decent for their price (judging from everyone here who uses them).

I have a few questions though:

1) What gains in temps do you think I would achieve from going from a 212+ to a 240mm rad (ballpark)?

2) The only part of the rasa kit that is 'meh' is the tubing which can discolor? If so, I can just buy better tubing somewhere else online?

3) I know most people swap the fans with yates or something, but will the stock fans work fine? I'm reading that certain fans work with certain rads (low speed = rx rads and high speed = rs rads?). Would upgrading the fans or doing push/pull make a big difference, or just a couple degrees like with air coolers?

4) All I need for the rasa kit are two drive bay spaces, correct? I may be able to fit the 240 rad in my case (on top) but not sure if the fans would fit with it and I wouldn't want to mount them outside blowing hot air into the case.

I have no problem mounting the rad externally on the back though b/c my case has pre-drilled grommet holes for it (although I can't find the sizes of them).

thanks. sorry for the tldr.
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I'm thinking about upgrading to water cooling next month or so. Right now at 24C ambient, I idle at ~38C and load at 55-56C. If I did go with water, it would be cpu only. I don't know if this is weird, but I really would like to try water because it looks fun and cool, plus I could probably get a higher OC. I don't mind the maintenance that much.

With that being said, I know the rs240 would be sufficient for a cpu-only loop. I'm on a budget (150-175). I know xspc's kits are pretty decent for their price (judging from everyone here who uses them).

I have a few questions though:

1) What gains in temps do you think I would achieve from going from a 212+ to a 240mm rad (ballpark)?

2) The only part of the rasa kit that is 'meh' is the tubing which can discolor? If so, I can just buy better tubing somewhere else online?

3) I know most people swap the fans with yates or something, but will the stock fans work fine? I'm reading that certain fans work with certain rads (low speed = rx rads and high speed = rs rads?). Would upgrading the fans or doing push/pull make a big difference, or just a couple degrees like with air coolers?

4) All I need for the rasa kit are two drive bay spaces, correct? I may be able to fit the 240 rad in my case (on top) but not sure if the fans would fit with it and I wouldn't want to mount them outside blowing hot air into the case.

I have no problem mounting the rad externally on the back though b/c my case has pre-drilled grommet holes for it (although I can't find the sizes of them).

thanks. sorry for the tldr.
1) Better temps, if its just the cpu, expect idle 30-35c (oc to 4.0) and loads 40-45c.

2) Yeah, its an obvious cost-cutting and crappy move on xspc's tube. Just get something else. I recommend Primochill Primoflex, ~4ft is sufficient.

3) Yates are a fine alternative to the stock fans. I use the medium speed ones. The work awesome.

4) The reservoir/pump unit takes up two 5.25" drive bays. If you can't fit the rad w/ fans inside, go external though get some extra tube, ~6ft total.
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1) Better temps, if its just the cpu, expect idle 30-35c (oc to 4.0) and loads 40-45c.

2) Yeah, its an obvious cost-cutting and crappy move on xspc's tube. Just get something else. I recommend Primochill Primoflex, ~4ft is sufficient.

3) Yates are a fine alternative to the stock fans. I use the medium speed ones. The work awesome.

4) The reservoir/pump unit takes up two 5.25" drive bays. If you can't fit the rad w/ fans inside, go external though get some extra tube, ~6ft total.
yea, i figured i would need better tubing. but besides that, everything else in the rasa kit is okay, right?

i'll probably just stick with the stock fans and see what results i get. then go from there.

thanks for the help.
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Yes, everything included is way better than the CM air cooler. Its a nice kit for first-timers to water. good luck
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Fazio93 said it about perfect. Tubing is something that you will want to replace right away. If you have the extra money and want to mount the rad on the out side, I would suggest that you get this. The mounting brackets that come with the rad suck, Since the brakets are so short and depending on where the holes are for your case can make it difficult to route the tubing from the rad through the holes. I have my ports from my rad pointing away from my case and looping back around to the case so the tubing sticks out really far. But other than that I really like the kit, it help with the temps big time for me since its so hot in the room that my computer is in.
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