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The GF100 was on discrete cards. They are losing integrated shipments. The GF100 launch did suck but it sold well enough amazingly.
Yes and no...

Yes, GF10x sold quite well across the board.

No, they are not losing discrete shipments "across the board". By segment, NVIDIA is on par/better than last year, QoQ.

What they are losing on is "market share"... which, unfortunately, is counted by total units sold according to this research. Why "unfortunately"? Because they count EVERY Sandy Bridge chip as one GPU.

So if you bought a 2600k system with a discrete card, you technically have two GPUs even though you use only one.

See my point? It skews the total market share in favor of Intel heavily.

I'd take this market "research" with a grain of salt, because it's not counting the usage of GPUs in the market properly.
    
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post #52 of 83
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Yes and no...

Yes, GF10x sold quite well across the board.

No, they are not losing discrete shipments "across the board". By segment, NVIDIA is on par/better than last year, QoQ.

What they are losing on is "market share"... which, unfortunately, is counted by total units sold according to this research. Why "unfortunately"? Because they count EVERY Sandy Bridge chip as one GPU.

So if you bought a 2600k system with a discrete card, you technically have two GPUs even though you use only one.

See my point? It skews the total market share in favor of Intel heavily.

I'd take this market "research" with a grain of salt, because it's not counting the usage of GPUs in the market properly.
I was thinking about that as well.... like how would they account the 2500K's and 2600K's that were paired with P67 boards. Those are obviously using discrete graphics, but they are still being counted towards the "total market share"
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Ah, what?
Apparently it needs to be repeated...

The GPU within Sandybridge processors usually the 2000 or 3000 is better than Zacate...

HD 3000 + 540M= =), but Apple of course wants you to pay $300 for the CPU that is $20 more, so they can't have you taking advantage of CUDA.
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I was thinking about that as well.... like how would they account the 2500K's and 2600K's that were paired with P67 boards. Those are obviously using discrete graphics, but they are still being counted towards the "total market share"
My point exactly.... this research just looks at overall numbers.

So every single P67 board owner on the market has ... drumroll.... two+ GPUs in their computer.
    
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That seems cheap but it seems fair at the same time. They get a share for each piece of technology they sell. Looks like they're aiming to gain shares in ways some of us never even knew about.
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I think NVidia is pretty strong in the small scale market like smartphones etc.
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Exploding vrm edition cards are great for sales but bad for market share.
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post #58 of 83
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Blame the GF100, 6 months late with the predecessor being in short supply during that time.
That equals minimal sales, that whole time ATI was selling cards hand over fist.
Give GF100 some love! Im a huge fan of the 480/470 because even though they are loud, inefficient, and hot. They are very good overclockers and are very powerful for still being a year old.

What they need to do is work on efficiency, they could then compete in the business/integrated market and the smartphone market. Nvidias Tegra 2 GPU is beaten by a brand new GPU maker Qualcomm, Nvidia got beat at their own game. But i guess its all about walking the walk, and i fell for it again. Curse you Nvidia!

Edit, its kind of like owning a viper, (car people here) poor handling but makes up for with raw power.
Edited by codejunki - 5/4/11 at 6:00pm
    
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poor Nvidia
I will always buy Nvidia from now on to support it. (like if i haven't already
but didn't we see this coming already? HD 3000 is a bit faster than the G 210.
Edited by james8 - 5/4/11 at 6:12pm
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post #60 of 83
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Give GF100 some love! Im a huge fan of the 480/470 because even though they are loud, inefficient, and hot. They are very good overclockers and are very powerful for still being a year old.

What they need to do is work on efficiency, they could then compete in the business/integrated market and the smartphone market. Nvidias Tegra 2 GPU is beaten by a brand new GPU maker Qualcomm, Nvidia got beat at their own game. But i guess its all about walking the walk, and i fell for it again. Curse you Nvidia!

Edit, its kind of like owning a viper, (car people here) poor handling but makes up for with raw power.

I'm not dissing the the GF100, I owned 5 at one time or another, sli 470 and sli 480.

I'm talking about the lost sales from Cypress release in Sept. to the GF100 release in March.

During that 6 month time period NV didn't sell much.
Edited by grunion - 5/4/11 at 6:51pm
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