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Originally Posted by krazyatom View Post
Looks like 940/2200 is my limit
It failed at 950/2200. oh well...
I need water cool ugh
How hot is your card getting to?

Another option is getting your case more air flow friendly to the GPU. That can sometimes reduce heat by a few good degrees, making it a bit more stable to OCing.
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Well, the way you see it ... is in error. A 15% CPU OC you'd be lucky to see an average FPS gain of 2% across a variety of games, esp. at your resolution. Whereas a 15% OC on the GPU would yield a solid 10% fps gain in the same tests.

Glad you got it sorta OP ... yeah, sometimes you have take control of the fan situation to get the highest possible OC's on your card.
Exactly my thoughts. Gpu=very noticable FPS increase. Cpu=not so much, except in a few cpu dependent games.
    
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Well, the way you see it ... is in error. A 15% CPU OC you'd be lucky to see an average FPS gain of 2% across a variety of games, esp. at your resolution. Whereas a 15% OC on the GPU would yield a solid 10% fps gain in the same tests.

Glad you got it sorta OP ... yeah, sometimes you have take control of the fan situation to get the highest possible OC's on your card.
I am all for overclocking (both CPU and GPU) don't misunderstand me, as for FPS gains, I guess it is relative to what one plays. For instance Civ 5 seems to benefit more from CPU Overclocking than other games (end turn calculations are quite heavy), while for example Dragon Age 2 can't care less of my CPU clock but at the same time benefits (even if relatively little) from my GPU overclock (running the game at 875 instead of 783 nets me exactly 2 FPS more for a total of 32) but it may be because of the bad drivers/new game combo.

As for the GTX 580 itself, I believe the situation's tricky, the wall of this card is the VRAM not the horsepower, so as far as I noticed either you overkill games at 60+ FPS or VRAM limit your performances and overclocking can't help.
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I don't believe Asus bins their gpus, so it's not surprising to me that your card isn't a great overclocker.

I know from personal experience and participating in the 570 DCII thread, that many including myself didn't have such a great overclocking experience.
Edited by gl0ry - 5/4/11 at 1:44pm
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How hot is your card getting to?

Another option is getting your case more air flow friendly to the GPU. That can sometimes reduce heat by a few good degrees, making it a bit more stable to OCing.
with 100% fan it goes little over 60c and I have lian li open test bench case right now.

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I don't believe Asus bins their gpus, so it's not surprising to me that your card isn't a great overclocker.

I know from personal experience and participating in the 570 DCII thread, that many including myself didn't have such a great overclocking experience.
940/2200 is fast enough for me, but I just wanted to get higher hehe.
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Be happy you got that far. I couldn't get 850 core stable at any voltage under 1.075v. Stock voltage was 1.025v.

Nvidia probably swiped all the good GF110s for the 590s.
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post #17 of 21
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940/2200 is fast enough for me, but I just wanted to get higher hehe.
With my 570 DCII I was able to get to 925 benchmark stable with ease, but as soon as I tried OCCT I had thousands of errors. In fact, anything higher than 845-850 on the core would generate at least one error every few minutes.

Hopefully you'll do a lot better.

Edit: I'm not trying to scare you or anything, I like the Asus cards a lot. I just think it's a shame that they don't bin their GPUs on one of the best after market coolers available.
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post #18 of 21
With my evga gtx 580 black ops edition I'm able to hit 940/2100 with 1.138v from Msi afterburner.
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With my evga gtx 580 black ops edition I'm able to hit 940/2100 with 1.138v from Msi afterburner.
Is it safe to use that OC 24/7?
I am currently using 915/2160 for gaming and set default for regular use.
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With my 570 DCII I was able to get to 925 benchmark stable with ease, but as soon as I tried OCCT I had thousands of errors. In fact, anything higher than 845-850 on the core would generate at least one error every few minutes.

Hopefully you'll do a lot better.

Edit: I'm not trying to scare you or anything, I like the Asus cards a lot. I just think it's a shame that they don't bin their GPUs on one of the best after market coolers available.
I have never used OCCT to check errors. So 0 errors means it's perfectly stable overclock?
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