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Didn't think you could get block level access on a VM. Thought it had to be running on bare metal.
 
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You can't run Spinrite in a virtual machine.
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You can't run Spinrite in a virtual machine.
I fluked and got 1 to work, but it took like 5hrs into it, then sometime last night, it flipped a bird, and said the "cpu was turned off" error msg.. very strange... My pc doesn't have any "turn off" pwr management.. things... odd...

Still fun, but any suggestions for alt programs I can boot in a vm to repair these drives?

I'm still on topic,
    
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Try deleting the MFT using something like Sea Tools DOS.
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Originally Posted by Le_Loup View Post
I fluked and got 1 to work, but it took like 5hrs into it, then sometime last night, it flipped a bird, and said the "cpu was turned off" error msg.. very strange... My pc doesn't have any "turn off" pwr management.. things... odd...

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I'm still on topic,
Put Spinrite on a CD and boot it native. You can't repair your hard drive from within a VM. Period.
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Try deleting the MFT using something like Sea Tools DOS.
Sea tools? Hmm, and wouldn't deleting the mft do nothing for repair, just basically clear out the structure to find data?

Presently doing a full format of 2 of the drives, at 30% right now of the 1tb each. Going to then retry spinrite fresh, one at a time if needed.

Seatools?
^^ This?

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Put Spinrite on a CD and boot it native. You can't repair your hard drive from within a VM. Period.
Can, See pic,



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Can, See pic,



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You can't run Spinrite in a VM and expect it to work properly. Even with "use a physical disk" the disk access is still virtualized, which defeats the whole purpose.
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You can't run Spinrite in a VM and expect it to work properly. Even with "use a physical disk" the disk access is still virtualized, which defeats the whole purpose.
Mind explaining that one to me? Cause i've (in the past), literally pre installed/config'd a "virtual os" on a harddisk, and use that disk on another device, ie laptop, pc, etc, and boot from it/update drivers for that pc/laptop, and work. It's technically not virtualized, and still works. And the hdd is on esata, so speed isn't to much of an issue.

I've also successfully used , primary OS xp pro 64bit, shared a single usb (ipad) to a virtual machine of windows 7, ran itunes, backed up ipad, apps, etc, did update, fresh update of tunes, shared media, all in same vm, and did that through the famed messed up ipad driver for xp pro 64bit. Vm'ing is still possible, just have to , for lack of better words, make out with the app, and it'll work.

Still looking for alt options over spinrite, to repair/recover it before I do dban/seatools as options.

- Le_Loup
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Mind explaining that one to me? Cause i've (in the past), literally pre installed/config'd a "virtual os" on a harddisk, and use that disk on another device, ie laptop, pc, etc, and boot from it/update drivers for that pc/laptop, and work. It's technically not virtualized, and still works. And the hdd is on esata, so speed isn't to much of an issue.

Still looking for alt options over spinrite, to repair/recover it before I do dban/seatools as options.

- Le_Loup
You do not get direct access to the physical SATA controller from within a virtual machine. VMware just passes some -- but not all -- activity from the virtual SATA controller on to the physical controller. And some of the commands that Spinrite will want to use may just get silently dropped, or emulated. The emulation is good enough to run an OS, as long as it's not too picky, and that's all it needs to be.

In other words, it still is virtualized. Sorry dude.
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You do not get direct access to the physical SATA controller from within a virtual machine. VMware just passes some -- but not all -- activity from the virtual SATA controller on to the physical controller. And some of the commands that Spinrite will want to use may just get silently dropped, or emulated. The emulation is good enough to run an OS, as long as it's not too picky, and that's all it needs to be.

In other words, it still is virtualized. Sorry dude.
Then how come it actually worked on the 1 harddrive at least for spinrite? (The other, i'm fresh full formatting ntfs, to give it a chance to work). As i'm running 2 diff hdd's for the spinrite iso separately, so that it's accessing diff data to run spinrite for each vm separately. I've also setup diff core's for each vm, so that data basically is running independent of each other. (Almost independent, it's still same mobo).

I've virtualized, yes, but it's still accessing the hdd, and it's sata controller, as I haven't installed the vm tools that comes with vmware. If I did that, it'd be using full virtualization tech, instead of native.

Can you actually give evidence, to the contrary of what i've done? And proven? I can get more screenshots/pics/videos, if you need it to be proven. I don't mind.

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