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first off my rig...

core 2 quad q6600
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now to my question...

Giving the rig above how much can the cpu and ram take at overclocking? I don't understand all this 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.4.65.7.23.1.1 stuff so im using the ai tweaker from the bios. I've upped the overclock part to 15% which has my ram at 767mhz and my cpu is at 2.76ghz...

is this safe and can it go up more??

quick response please my hearts in my a$$ with worry lol.
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post #2 of 18
I wish I could help mate, lets see if some 6600 owner shows up!!
In the meanwhile, you could take a look at the forum, we have lots of Q6600 threads!
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post #3 of 18
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1198647

i know i might be bashed for posting a Hard forum thread, but it is was you are looking for.

i don't know all the terminology to q6600 so that thread should help you plenty. Lets face it overclock.net doesn't always have the best how to guides out there.

most q6600 will be able to reach 3.2ghz. with tempatures that are fine. However i seen a few go up to 3.6ghz but those are most uncommon.
Edited by lilraver018 - 5/4/11 at 11:57am
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post #4 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilraver018;13380681 
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1198647

i know i might be bashed for posting a Hard forum thread, but it is was you are looking for.

Well - you surely pointed him in the right direction, and it's a great thread.. so no puching here.. =)

I'd considered posting the same thread, so ..
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post #5 of 18
It depends on the Q6600. Each chip is different depending on the vid. The lower the vid the better it can take volts, stay cool and overclock.

Use CPUZ and check your vid number.

I had a vid of 1.35 I beleive and I could only get mine to 3.2GHz. My cousin could get his to 3.8GHz and some at 4GHz+.

Find out what your vid number is and that will give you an idea.

Also, overclock the CPU and once stable then start with the RAM overclock.
 
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I used core temp to find my vid and its 1.1625 I don't know if this is the same as you asked for.

Also 'cos im using a ai tweaker if i adjust my overclocking % on the cpu it automatically ups my ram, will the auto adjustment be a safe option for a beginner to start on or will this fry my ram?
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this is a very basic explanation of overclocking

its basic maths. your Q6600 is rated at 1066mhz. you always divide this number by 4 so 1066/4= 266, this is your fsb. (or cpu frequency)
then your processor (cpu) has a multiplier of 9 (or cpu ratio)
so 266 x 9 = 2394mhz or 2.4GHz, your stock speed

unlink your ram, so it stays at stock speeds, you can overclock the ram later.
this means leave it at 800mhz

can you raise the fsb? yours is now 266. (266 x 9 = 2394mb or 2.4ghz ) try rising it to 280
boot into windows
download realtemp and coretemp (google them)
install and run them
then download intel burn test (ibt) and run it.
have a look in task manager and notice how much free ram is listed.

in ibt set threads to 4 (for 4 cores) and then click on custom ram and enter an amount just below the free amount.
eg. i have 2520mb free ram. so i enter 2500 into the custom ram.
run the test for 5 passes. for now,
and then at final speed you want, run for 50 passes
keep an eye on temps (do not let it go over 75.c)

or download prime95 and run the torture test/large fft's

if test runs fine, go back into bios, and change frequency (fsb) to 300 and repeat the tests.
keep doing this in 20mhz steps until windows will not boot. then just go back a step (remove 20 from the fsb) to the last stable frequency,
or
just raise the cpu voltage a couple of levels. it should now boot.
its a balancing act, higher voltages will get you higher fsb, but it will also give you higher temps.
my B3 revision Q6600 needs 1.39v in the bios to get to 3.3ghz.
if yours is a G0 revision, you should be able to get this speed at a lower voltage


the trick is to do this step by step, and not go straight to eg. 400 (400 x 9= 3.6ghz), just take your time.

also for some reason using the x 9 multi, i couldn't get past 3.0ghz
so i dropped it to a x8 multi and i got it to 3.3ghz easily.
get the cpu maxed before increasing the ram speed

if you get to 400 x 9 (3.6ghz)
regarding the 1:1
if your fsb is 400mhz and your ram is 800mhz (which it is, yours is pc 6400, and as its ddr2 ram its 400mhz x 2 = 800mhz) this means they are the same, thus 1:1

this is more in the region of ram overclocking.
on my mobo my ratio is 5:6, my fsb is 424 and my ram is 509mhz (so 509 x 2 = 1118mhz and its stock speed is the same speed as yours ;-))
so your fsb is now 266mhz, so if your ram is at 1:1 then your ram is also 266mhz (ddr2 is 266 x 2 = 533mhz) so your ram is underclocked
to get it at 1;1 you would need a 400fsb

if you are at 2.76ghz, that means you will have fsb of 306mhz as 306 x 9 = 2760mhz
if you ram is at 1:1, then your ram will be at 612mhz (306 x 2)
yours is at 767 so you are using a different ratio, i think 5:6, cpu-z will tell you this
your ram is rated at 800mhz so you have actually underclocked your ram wink.gif
Edited by j.col - 5/4/11 at 12:23pm
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post #8 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson2011;13380906 
I used core temp to find my vid and its 1.1625 I don't know if this is the same as you asked for.

Also 'cos im using a ai tweaker if i adjust my overclocking % on the cpu it automatically ups my ram, will the auto adjustment be a safe option for a beginner to start on or will this fry my ram?

If you really have a 1.1625 VID...wow. I've got one in the other room (same VID), and it does 4.2GHz on a Xiggy 1283. Gotten into Windows as high as 4.6GHz with it.
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Best to use Bios and manually overclock. It will allow to overclock things independantly and you have more control.

Yes that vid is very nice and you should be able to get better results then I did!
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson2011;13380906 
I used core temp to find my vid and its 1.1625 I don't know if this is the same as you asked for.

Also 'cos im using a ai tweaker if i adjust my overclocking % on the cpu it automatically ups my ram, will the auto adjustment be a safe option for a beginner to start on or will this fry my ram?

take the ram timings off auto and it will show you a list
eg.
400/800
366/732
etc...
selecting one of these and it will show your ram speed, eg.800mhz, just keep it around 750-820 until you get the cpu done
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