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Hi guys, working on a new build, here are the parts so far.

HOME SERVER PC:

Cooler Master Elite 310 Blue = 45.19
http://canadacomputers.com/product_i...item_id=023781

3x Western Digital Caviar Green (WD10EARS) 1TB SATA3 3GB/s OEM = 196.59
http://canadacomputers.com/product_i...item_id=027571

Corsair CMPSU 500CX 500W PSU = 56.36
http://canadacomputers.com/product_i...item_id=033717


AMD Phenom II x2 555 BE Dual-Core Socket AM3, 3.2GHz, 7MB Cache, 2000MHz HT, 45nm = $96.04
http://canadacomputers.com/product_i...item_id=028512

G Skill Sniper Series DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB dual channel kit 9-9-9-24 = 99.42
http://canadacomputers.com/product_i...item_id=037767

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Ok, so if anyone can recommend more cost saving parts, that would be welcome, these are my specifications however.

-No online order, only from NCIX/Canadacomputers/infonec/tigerdirect.ca, i dont want to have these parts shipped, as i intend to go grab it build it and set it up in 1 day.

-Ignore the RAM, i know 8 GB overkill, but thats actually for my sig rig, and i will be dropping 4GB OCz Platinum in there

-No high end GPU needed for server, if you change the motherboard, at least have onboard graphics.

-no need for a CPU cooler.

-HDDs must be 1TB as they are going into RAID 1

-Motherboard must have RAID support,

-DVD drive please, i need it for teh driver CD =P

-and the CPU... just make sure it wont bother me while streaming video =P

once you've made the change, tell me the new price

i am fine with Micro ATX form factors, just make sure they support the above. I also have the OS already, i have a genuine Windows 7 home server CD key, and i can get an ISO off of technet.
Edited by Pentium4 531 overclocker - 5/11/11 at 1:55pm
    
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I would swap out the WD drives for this Seagate Barracuda I find those drives very good or you can go for the Hitachi ones if you need 6GB/s.
I just have very bad experiences with WD Drives. Other than the drives you have a nice setup there and you can upgrade to the 6 core phenom if you need it.
Will you be running WHS?
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I would swap out the WD drives for this Seagate Barracuda I find those drives very good or you can go for the Hitachi ones if you need 6GB/s.
I just have very bad experiences with WD Drives. Other than the drives you have a nice setup there and you can upgrade to the 6 core phenom if you need it.
Will you be running WHS?
yep im gunna run windows home server, i may upgrade to a 6 core down the road if i think its necessary, but i would think a quad core is more than enough,

anyways, the barracudas, would be nice if they are cheaper, and i dont really NEED SATA 6gb/s because a mechanical HDD cant even saturate a SATA 3GB/s lane yet XD i need a pair of 1TB drives , anyways i found a cheaper alternative and that is this

http://canadacomputers.com/product_i...item_id=027571
    
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There is no "Windows 7 Home Server"... do you mean "WHS" or "WHS 2011"?


The build is all wrong for a file/home server. You should be able to build one for under $400.

1) You only need a dual-core Athlon II at most unless you plan to transcode, Fold, etc.
2) Corsair CX430 is more than enough.
3) You don't need a DVD other than installing the OS for the first time.
4) Motherboard is overkill. Get a 785G, 740G, 760 instead.
5) There are other case that have more 3.5" HDD mounts.


If you plan to back up only 1TB... why not just get an external HDD?
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/4/11 at 1:34pm
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I'd probably also implement something like RAID 5.
You'll get 2 'TB' of space through 3 drives and if any drive fails you'll still have your data (and can rebuild a fresh drive to restore redundancy). Also a bit easier to expand as you get more drives.
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post #6 of 27
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There is no "Windows 7 Home Server"... do you mean "WHS" or "WHS 2011"?


The build is all wrong.

1) You only need a dual-core Athlon II at most unless you plan to transcode, Fold, etc.
2) Corsair CX430 is more than enough.
3) You don't need a DVD other than installing the OS for the first time.
4) Motherboard is overkill. Get a 785G, 740G, 760 instead.
WHS 2011, looks like win 7 so i call it W7 HS XD

well the DVD drive is there for windows installation, and for whatever other software installation that requires a DVD drive, and a i intend to transfer many different types of files, and do many different things with them, however i could cut the cost with an Athlon x4, its under 100 bucks, and for the PSU and Mobo, please provide links =P

also... i will be backing up AND storing Data from more than 1 computer, as this data will be sent over a network. and a RAID 5.... well that means i need another HDD >.< and i think 1 TB is more than enough, i still have 600GB in my own 1TB hdd, and if i need to expand, i could allways image the drives to another RAID array. and i though a RAID 1 could rebuild itself as well 0.o?
Edited by Pentium4 531 overclocker - 5/4/11 at 1:42pm
    
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post #7 of 27
I'm going to reiterate what Duckie Ho said.

In my server the only reason I have a quad is because it's the CPU I replaced out of my sig rig. If you really want a quad, stick to a very cheap AMD athlon series. Also, like Duckie said, that mobo is over kill. Sata raid is fairly standard on all motherboards these days. My motherboard was $65, which some would argue is still too much, but has onboard video, 6 ports for raid if necessary. Also, with Windows Home Server, unless you get the newer version, there is no raid.

I see 4GB of ram, and like also stated, unless you will be doing DVD rips on the server, why the DVD drive? Just pull the one from your main rig to install OS and drivers then return it. Like also stated, get a case that has boat loads of 3.5 IN internal slots. Leave plenty of room for upgrade/improvement. If you're really set on that PSU, then go for it, but if all this thing does is spin hard drives you won't need a lot of power. Oh, and I'd suggest to include a few extra fans. Servers are usually left on 24/7, and I'd prefer to keep mine as cool as possible.
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Originally Posted by Pentium4 531 overclocker View Post
WHS 2011, looks like win 7 so i call it W7 HS XD

well the DVD drive is there for windows installation, and for whatever other software installation that requires a DVD drive, and a i intend to transfer many different types of files, and do many different things with them, however i could cut the cost with an Athlon x4, its under 100 bucks, and for the PSU and Mobo, please provide links =P

also... i will be backing up AND storing Data from more than 1 computer, as this data will be sent over a network. and a RAID 5.... well that means i need another HDD >.< and i think 1 TB is more than enough, i still have 600GB in my own 1TB hdd, and if i need to expand, i could allways image the drives to another RAID array. and i though a RAID 1 could rebuild itself as well 0.o?
You will find that 1 TB goes quick. You may also want to budget a gigabit switch in there, in case you don't already have one. Raid 1 can rebuild, but raid 5 you to not need pairs. In the long run, raid 5 is a cheaper, yet still redundant raid solution. Yes, right now you would have to buy, at minimum, 3 hard drives. But when you want to add more storage to your server, with raid 1 you must buy in pairs. With raid 5 that isn't totally necessary as the number can be odd.

Are you 100% sold on the new WHS? Raid is great and all, but I do love the drive extender feature of WHSv1. I don't need to purchase any specific size drive, or spindle speed. The software "raid" takes care of everything and my files are spread across multiple drives like other raid solutions.
post #9 of 27
As everybody explained about your hardware, I won't beat a dead horse, but why WHS? Why not consider NAS software that is specialized for what you will be doing, like Openfiler or FreeNAS?

Also, I would highly recommend at least some sort of RAID, RAID 5 is pretty cheap to maintain, and then, if you've got the cash, either a hot spare or a large drive to backup your RAID would be great too. Remember, you won't know how significant your data is until you lose it.
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As everybody explained about your hardware, I won't beat a dead horse, but why WHS? Why not consider NAS software that is specialized for what you will be doing, like Openfiler or FreeNAS?
WHS is suited to what we is doing from what I can gather. Sorry to contradict you, its kinda rude.
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