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Loop: EK Supreme HF Rev2, EK-FC6970-Acetal, Swiftech MCP655-B, Black Ice GTS 240mm X-Flow, Swiftech MCR220-QP 240mm, EK 150 Res, and PrimoChill PrimoFlex 7/16" ID 5/8" OD (5-6 feet used with my current setup).

Order: MCP655 >> Black Ice GTS >> Swiftech MCP220 >> EK Supreme >> EK-FC6970 >> EK 150 Res

Arrangement: The Black Ice is in the front of the case, and has two 120mm noctua fans pushing air through the Black Ice into the case as an inlet. I have the swiftech rad in the top of the case, which has two noctua fans pulling air through the swiftech and out of the case as an outlet. The back of the case has an NZXT 120mm fan pulling air out of the case as a second outlet.

I have swapped out my radiator fans to Noctua NF-P12s, but have noticed an increase in temperature, a decrease in airflow through the rads and case, but a huge decrease in sound (it's lovely!), and just would like a second opinion about whether or not I should had some Gentle Typhoons (or something else) so that my rads have push/pull to help the airflow a bit, or if the temps do not justify such an addition. Any other suggestions to improve this would be greatly appreciated.

Before I had push pull with NZXT 120x25mm fans on both of the 240 rads, and my idle temps were mid 30's during idle, and at most, mid 40's under load, overclocked to 4.3 Ghz @ 1.55 vcore. Similar temps were seen on my HD 6950 GPU under load.

Now, after putting a two Noctua fans pushing on the Black Ice rad, and 2 Noctua fans pulling on the swiftech 220 (removed all the NZXT fans on the rads), my temps are as follows: High 30s during idle and high 40's to low 50's under load, while overclocked at 4.3 Ghz @ 1.55 vcore. The GPU is hitting to the High 40's, at most under load. This is everything going fullspeed on the fan controller, so not much headroom for upgrades...

The ambient room temp is around 26 - 27 degrees, and is fairly consistent between the before and after scenario. What worries me is seeing the CPU dipping into the 50's, which for some reason bothers me, considering the investment I have in to my watercooling loop.

Am I being too concerned with temps? Should I leave it? Or, should I try adding two Gentle Typhoons pulling on the Black Ice rad (Noctuas pushing and GT's pulling) since the radiator has 30 fpi and this should get some more airflow going through that radiator, and since it is the inlet to my case, to get more positive pressure within the case?

If I were to modify my loop, my goal would be to add the least amount of fan noise possible (my girlfriend studies a lot and I try not to have fans blasting), but try and get my temps back into the 40's under load.

Suggestions?
Edited by svthomas - 5/4/11 at 2:32pm
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post #2 of 13
i don't think there's a big diff from 4.3 and 4.0 maybe just downclock it

maybe better thermal paste?
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post #3 of 13
I would suggest replacing the Noctuas with AP-15s. It's not a good idea to have different types fans and differing speeds in push/pull and temps could be worse. The AP-15s should be quieter than the Noctuas but the tone may or may not annoy you. You'd get a slight improvement pulling in cool air on the top rad rather than using the warm case air but it probably won't be a big difference. The GTS will definitely benefit from higher speed fans.

As suggested above, depending on what TIM you're currently using you might shave a few degrees off with a better one.

Also as suggested above, dropping the overclock and vcore slightly will also shave a few degrees off and a couple of hundred MHz is neither here nor there.
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Good ideas. I have Artic Cooling MX-4 on the cpu atm, but have some a arctic silver 5 too, maybe I should try and see if I can get a difference by changing the paste and reseating.
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post #5 of 13
I'd stick with MX-4 rather than AS5. You're likely to get a difference but I would anticipate worse temps with AS5.
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In addition to reseating, trying a diff paste, and a slight downclock:

I think I may pick up two ap-15s, put them pushing in through the rad on the top, and have 4 noctuas on the front rad in push/pulling into the case as well and see if that helps (trying to save the noctuas, haha, just got them). The NZXT fan on the rear of the case doesn't have any restriction (grill removed), so it is moving a fair amount of air out of the case, so it should be able to move the air out somewhat close to it coming in on both top and front. If I am still in the same boat after that, I will order two more ap-15s and remove the noctuas all together, would be a shame though, I've only had them a day and the stupid things cost 80 bucks!

As for the noise, I can handle it a little louder, considering right now you can hear the harddrive and pump, so it would be okay if the sound were louder than those. Plus, I can just control the RPM with my controller to something somewhat comparable to the rest of the system. Just don't want it too loud, memories of that stock HD6950 GPU fan make me shiver.

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post #7 of 13
Noctua NF-P12s are terrible radiator fans.
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I wasn't going to point that out as he's just bought them They do Ok as decent case fans though, providing you don't reduce the voltage too much.
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Also I noticed a huge drop in temps on my i5 when I enabled C-state, possibly the same tech for AMD?!?!?!
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post #10 of 13
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Changed my my fans around to try and get me by until I get the ap15s, and put the noctuas in push/pull and I am _still_ not impressed... Just placed an order for 4 of the ap-15s. I suppose I can salvage one of the noctuas for my outlet case fan, and will just use them in another build I have going.
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EK-Supreme HF XSPC RX480 Win 7 Ultimate 64bit Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #1 
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Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #2 Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #3 Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard Seasonic X750 Gold 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Danger Den 26  Razer Deathadder My cat, or other small, furry creatures. Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 
Audio
Sennheiser HD555 Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition ASUS Crosshair iv Formula SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6950 2GB (unlocked) - ref Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM None NZXT havik Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 19" LCD Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard  CORSAIR TX650 Antec 902 
MouseAudio
Razer Naga M-Audio Studiophile AV40 Powered Monitor Speakers 
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AMD PII Rig
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8120 @ 4.8Ghz ASUS Sabertooth 990FX MSI Geforce GTX680 #1 MSI Geforce GTX680 #2 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
PowerColor 7970 ref. (Backup card...) 16 GB Corsair Vengeance PC3 12800 Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM Crucial 128GB M4 SSD 6Gb/s 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
None PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/1" ID 3/4... Swiftech MCP655 Koolance VID-NX680 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance VID-NX680 Danger Den Monsoon D5 Bay Reservoir Enzotech Compression Fittings Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 x4 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EK-Supreme HF XSPC RX480 Win 7 Ultimate 64bit Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #1 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #2 Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #3 Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard Seasonic X750 Gold 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Danger Den 26  Razer Deathadder My cat, or other small, furry creatures. Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 
Audio
Sennheiser HD555 Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition ASUS Crosshair iv Formula SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6950 2GB (unlocked) - ref Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM None NZXT havik Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 19" LCD Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard  CORSAIR TX650 Antec 902 
MouseAudio
Razer Naga M-Audio Studiophile AV40 Powered Monitor Speakers 
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