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How do they know the 'distant star' reference point isn't moving itself?
It is moving. It's sufficiently far enough for it not to matter.
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Einstein was amazing. To think he was not even a scientinst, just a guy who could think differently
Also, Tesla. Those two men(?) are godlike.
If we only could clone them...
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Einstein was amazing. To think he was not even a scientinst, just a guy who could think differently
What the hell is that supposed to mean? he had a PhD and spent all his life in various scientific institutions.
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The idea of and how they accomplished this leaves me just amazed. I don't really get excited about things on the Discovery or SCI channel anymore as it's all the same thing over and over. But this is just awesome and refreshing. I'm glad that not all of our research money is going to Viagra and hair restoration. (queue idocracy quotes)
You will feel differently about that once you are bald and can't get it up. I guarantee it.
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Wait - the Earth is round?
So how "round" is the earth, how did it get that way and why? From its lowest point, The Dead Sea to its highest Mount Everest, the earth doesn't appear to be round to your average human. Nothwithstanding this apparently large difference, relatively speaking the earth is much rounder than, for example a 2.25" pool ball. This comparison demonstrates the inherent difficulties in creating the perfect sphere. One company in Belgium has been making pool balls for over a hundred years and is still far from perfecting a perfect sphere. This "scientic" article provides some ironic humour for me. Firstly, the comparator is not a ping pong ball but more accurately a table tennis ball. Secondly, the size of table tennis balls increased in the year 2000 from 38 mm to 40 mm. Neither of these measurements is 1.5" as the scientificly based article proclaims. I'm more interested in negative gravity and its ongoing role in interstellar travel.
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Source: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...11/04may_epic/

Simply astonishing that they can actually prove this kind of stuff. More astonishing that the brilliance of Einstein still shines through.

Apologies for repost etc.
Well then I guess it's finally official. Time machines here we come!
    
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I think scientists over think these types of things, who cares how the universe works, or how the universe was created. Lets put all this brain power towards promoting how everyday uses for humans work. This world is was created and is ran by civilians, not the rich "commanders" who lead the countries. They are nothing, we are everything

Im not going to say anything specific, but I also happen to beleive some things were not made to be discovered by humans. Just something to think about.
*Rise up my fellow bretherins!!*
"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed."

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious"

-Albert Einstein

Be curious of the world around you. It makes life much more interesting. This is the root of Einstein's genius - he was curious as a child is with the knowledge of an adult. Things such as gravitation, light, and mundane phenomena to the normal physicist in the 1920's invoked a curiosity in him to question "what happens if...".

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So how "round" is the earth, how did it get that way and why? From its lowest point, The Dead Sea to its highest Mount Everest, the earth doesn't appear to be round to your average human. Nothwithstanding this apparently large difference, relatively speaking the earth is much rounder than, for example a 2.25" pool ball. This comparison demonstrates the inherent difficulties in creating the perfect sphere. One company in Belgium has been making pool balls for over a hundred years and is still far from perfecting a perfect sphere. This "scientic" article provides some ironic humour for me. Firstly, the comparator is not a ping pong ball but more accurately a table tennis ball. Secondly, the size of table tennis balls increased in the year 2000 from 38 mm to 40 mm. Neither of these measurements is 1.5" as the scientificly based article proclaims. I'm more interested in negative gravity and its ongoing role in interstellar travel.
The Earth is not perfectly round, by a long-shot. It bulges near the equator because of it's speed of rotation. The sphere that they created was not the interesting science in the article - it was the confirmation of one of the aspects of how a large rotating mass warps space-time. In any case, the sphere they did create is the most perfect sphere yet, differing in diameter by only 40 odd atoms. Pool balls are not nearly manufactured to that amount of precision, since it would cost too much and the poll game itself would alter the shape of the balls.
Edited by ArchLinuxFTW - 5/7/11 at 9:53am
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Einstein was an amazing man, but I still feel FTL is possible no matter what he thought. To think that we know for certain that it's not is blasphemy.
Perhaps faster than light travel is not possible but some other forum of rapid travel spanning large distances are possible. I heard Aperture Science was working on something but its all hush hush. Seriously though, who knows what will be possible.
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Man has always pondered how and why. I want to know what secrets the Universe holds. I want to know how it began and how it will end. Maybe one day, knowing the ultimate secrets will lead man into a new age above and beyond expectations. Maybe we'll figure things out and be more disappointed with the results than we were with Crysis 2. Maybe we'll never know. But what IS for certain is that we'll never know if we don't try.
I completely agree with this, but my point is, how ever humans were made, the universe was made, probaly made so humans cant discover everything. Think as is it this way, your a warden in a prison, but you dont want the inmates looking outside, yet you put windows 20 feet off the ground and the inmates try to figure out they can look out. Thus defeating the purpose.
Edit- Dont listen to me, im just babaling.
    
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I hate to be the voice of pessimism here, but I wonder sometimes if these results are born from a technology that's designed to "find" the assumed results. I'm not arguing against the theories of Einstein, or against these results even. Just can't help wondering how they go about developing tech to find objective results sometimes.
By your own logic your argument is invalid. You don't necessarily believe or credit the discovery, so you develop an argument to inject enough doubt to keep it from being believable.

If you mathematically predict that there is a gravitonzomgbbq gate in your backyard, how are you going to find it? With a screwdriver? A jeep liberty? You are going to look into what you need to invent a gravitonzomgbbq-finder, and your going to build it.

Your argument doesn't make sense, because your assuming (in this frame of reference) that a "true" and "unbiased" universe even exists. Go back to quantum physics and come back after a year. We alter things just by observing them. Our models we apply to the universe are going to give us exactly what we design them to do, and so are the tools we use to do it with.

Of course they develop technology just for doing this, how else are they going to do it?
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