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I am buying a new laptop and I am trying to get some feedback on which to get.

The first of the two laptops I am considering is:

Model: HP dv6tqe

OS: Windows 7 64-bit

CPU: 2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 3.3 GHz

GPU: 1GB GDDR5 Radeon(TM) HD 6770M Graphics [HDMI, VGA]

RAM: 6GB DDR3

Hard drive: 160GB SSD

battery: 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized)

Display: 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)

optical drive: Blu-ray drive




And the other:

Model: HP dv7tqe

OS: Windows 7 64bit

CPU: 2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 3.3 GHz

GPU: 1GB GDDR5 Radeon(TM) HD 6770M Graphics [HDMI, VGA]

RAM: 6GB DDR3

Hard Drive: 660GB 7200RPM Dual Hard Drive (SSD 160GB + 500GB 7200RPM)

battery: 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized)

Display 17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display (1600 x 900)

optical drive: Blu-ray drive




Performance wise, the two laptops are nearly identical, however the difference is in the screen size and the hard drives.


With the dv7tqe, I have a 17.3" screen and a SSD and a HDD
With the dv6tqe, I have a 15.6" screen but only a SSD

With the dv6t, I will have to use an external drive for most of my storage, while with the dv7t, I will have to deal with a larger screen than I would like.

So my question is which of the two computers would be better for a college environment.

Also, if any of you have a laptop with similar specs, what is the real world battery life? HP claims that the 9 cell battery can get "Up to 9.5 hours of battery life!!!!" which seems unrealistic unless its 9 hours with wireless off, the screen off, the gpu switched off, and idling the cpu. So in a school or work environment what can I expect to get from the battery and then, what can I expect to get when I ignore all the power saving tips and have the brightness all the way up, the gpu switched on and actually use the cpu I paid for?

Thanks





UPDATE:

If you think you know of a better laptop (or would like to look for one), please keep in mind these specs:
What is your maximum budget? around $2000

What country are you in? USA

What will be the uses of this laptop? School and some gaming

Do you have brand loyalty or care which brands we select for you? I like hp, but if you are a fan of another major company, feel free to post it.

What screen size do you require? atleast 15" and no more than 17.6" I'd prefer a 15.6" screen, but I'd rather have all of the hardware I want with a larger screen than most of the hardware and the smaller screen.

What screen resolution do you require? any, but id like HD

Are you looking to buy NEW or would refurbished/recertified/used be okay? New laptops only

How long should the battery last? (Under optimal conditions, no movies/games/heavy internet) I'd hope for a couple hours in the real world which apparently equates to "up to 5.95 hours of battery life!!!" =P

What games would you like to play with your laptop? And on what settings? The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on mid-high settings.

What operating system do you need? Windows 7

Is there a certain style of laptop you want? (aluminum, black, gaming, etc.) I like a metal finish, but it really isnt that important.

How much hard drive space do you need? atleast 160gb of SSD. I'd like to see dual hard drive bays to add like a 500gb HDD.

Do you need any special hardware? (blue ray, webcam, specialty ports, etc.) Webcam, blu-ray, hdmi out, especially if its not a HD screen.

Is there anything else we need to know?
I really would like to see:
-2nd gen I5 or I7 processor (or bulldozer if it is somehow released and shipping in the next week or 2 which isn't gonna happen =/)
-atleast 4gb of ram
-switchable GPU (preferably 1gb of GDDR5)
-large battery (I usually go for the 9 cell when I'm looking)
-Apple products are not an option.
Edited by jt123 - 5/10/11 at 9:49am

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post #2 of 12
I would suggest the 17" if you don't have a size constraint because the 1600x900 is much better than that hideous 1333x768 at 15"... You might have to just deal with the hybrid drive instead of a SSD. A SSD from HDD+flash memory you can upgrade. You cannot upgrade screen resolutions.

You will see better battery in the 15" version because of the smaller Screen/resolution also because the SSD draws like 8-9 less watts than the hybrid drive. But your talking like 10-25minutes max extra, not much. And again the size and weight. One other thing; the Blu-ray drive will be useless on a small res. unless you use the HDMI out to a larger LCD screen.

So to sum up my explanation:

17" version: cons - no ssd, 17" screen uses more power.
pros - hybrid drive close to ssd performance, more screen real estate.

15" version: cons - crummy screen res., and lower screen real estate.
pros - ssd better overall IO performance, better battery life
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Adrama summed it up pretty well.

For what its worth, I really hated my wife's 17" laptop when she was in college. She has a 14"-15" now and its great. Yeah, the 15" resolution isn't stellar, but the its not going to be hideous by any means.

Frankly, I typically recommend smaller screens and, if you notice a need for more real estate, get a dedicated monitor for your desk. You can't make your laptop smaller, but you can get an LCD down the road if you need something bigger. LCDs are dirt cheap now and days, too. You can get a 23"-24" for just a few hundred bucks.

Big screens suck in college because your desks are usually crammed together and your 17" monitor is going to honk people off.
    
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For a college environment, I'd lean towards the smaller laptop for better portability
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I would go with the bigger resolution, but for college I would look into other models, gaming is great and all, but taking a laptop to class that size will get annoying.
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I am using an Asus M70. It's a big laptop. For classes it was a pain to carry around sometimes and finding a bag to fit was a pain as well. The key points I like about this laptop is the high resolution screen and dual hard drives. I would not get a laptop now without dual hard drives. I have an SSD in one for boot and a mechanical for the rest of my stuff in the other slot. Works perfectly.

That said, I would recommend getting a 15.6" laptop with dual hard drive slots and a high resolution screen. I just can't stand 1366x768 . One that comes to mind is the Asus G series (I think the older ones).
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll continue to check this thread over the next week or two to see if anyone else posts, then I'll have to make my decision.
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Originally Posted by AMC;13387428 
I am using an Asus M70. It's a big laptop. For classes it was a pain to carry around sometimes and finding a bag to fit was a pain as well. The key points I like about this laptop is the high resolution screen and dual hard drives. I would not get a laptop now without dual hard drives. I have an SSD in one for boot and a mechanical for the rest of my stuff in the other slot. Works perfectly.
That said, I would recommend getting a 15.6" laptop with dual hard drive slots and a high resolution screen. I just can't stand 1366x768 . One that comes to mind is the Asus G series (I think the older ones).

I would not suggest carrying around an ASUS G series. They weigh about 8 lbs(probably more!) and take up a crapton of space. I have experience carrying around the laptop a few times. Most of the time, the desk I used was not big enough to hold my laptop(G51) and the lights on the lid cannot be turned off by using software. My backpack BARELY fit the laptop too.

Short version : Get something smaller than a 15" if you're going to bring it to class most of the time. You will love it for its portability.
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Originally Posted by jt123;13386090 
I am buying a new laptop and I am trying to get some feedback on which to get.

The first of the two laptops I am considering is:

Model: HP dv6tqe

OS: Windows 7 64-bit

CPU: 2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 3.3 GHz

GPU: 1GB GDDR5 Radeon(TM) HD 6770M Graphics [HDMI, VGA]

RAM: 6GB DDR3

Hard drive: 160GB SSD

battery: 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized)

Display: 15.6" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366x768)

optical drive: Blu-ray drive




And the other:

Model: HP dv7tqe

OS: Windows 7 64bit

CPU: 2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 3.3 GHz

GPU: 1GB GDDR5 Radeon(TM) HD 6770M Graphics [HDMI, VGA]

RAM: 6GB DDR3

Hard Drive: 660GB 7200RPM Dual Hard Drive (SSD 160GB + 500GB 7200RPM)

battery: 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized)

Display 17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display (1600 x 900)

optical drive: Blu-ray drive




Performance wise, the two laptops are nearly identical, however the difference is in the screen size and the hard drives.


With the dv7tqe, I have a 17.3" screen and a SSD and a HDD
With the dv6tqe, I have a 15.6" screen but only a SSD

With the dv6t, I will have to use an external drive for most of my storage, while with the dv7t, I will have to deal with a larger screen than I would like.

So my question is which of the two computers would be better for a college environment.

Also, if any of you have a laptop with similar specs, what is the real world battery life? HP claims that the 9 cell battery can get "Up to 9.5 hours of battery life!!!!" which seems unrealistic unless its 9 hours with wireless off, the screen off, the gpu switched off, and idling the cpu. So in a school or work environment what can I expect to get from the battery and then, what can I expect to get when I ignore all the power saving tips and have the brightness all the way up, the gpu switched on and actually use the cpu I paid for?

Thanks





UPDATE:

If you think you know of a better laptop (or would like to look for one), please keep in mind these specs:
What is your maximum budget? around $2000

What country are you in? USA

What will be the uses of this laptop? School and some gaming

Do you have brand loyalty or care which brands we select for you? I like hp, but if you are a fan of another major company, feel free to post it.

What screen size do you require? atleast 15" and no more than 17.6" I'd prefer a 15.6" screen, but I'd rather have all of the hardware I want with a larger screen than most of the hardware and the smaller screen.

What screen resolution do you require? any, but id like HD

Are you looking to buy NEW or would refurbished/recertified/used be okay? New laptops only

How long should the battery last? (Under optimal conditions, no movies/games/heavy internet) I'd hope for a couple hours in the real world which apparently equates to "up to 5.95 hours of battery life!!!" =P

What games would you like to play with your laptop? And on what settings? The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on mid-high settings.

What operating system do you need? Windows 7

Is there a certain style of laptop you want? (aluminum, black, gaming, etc.) I like a metal finish, but it really isnt that important.

How much hard drive space do you need? atleast 160gb of SSD. I'd like to see dual hard drive bays to add like a 500gb HDD.

Do you need any special hardware? (blue ray, webcam, specialty ports, etc.) Webcam, blu-ray, hdmi out, especially if its not a HD screen.

Is there anything else we need to know?
I really would like to see:
-2nd gen I5 or I7 processor (or bulldozer if it is somehow released and shipping in the next week or 2 which isn't gonna happen =/)
-atleast 4gb of ram
-switchable GPU (preferably 1gb of GDDR5)
-large battery (I usually go for the 9 cell when I'm looking)
-Apple products are not an option.

www.xoticpc.com
Its a great website, with a lot of customizabillity. The cost can be well below 2000, but also higher in the same computer. Check it out!biggrin.gif

Sorry for the long quote, btw. (;
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I say try for a Sager notebook. They're all at 1080p and under reasonable prices with more than reasonable specs. biggrin.gif
     
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