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BC2, WoW, BF3 -- GTX 590 or HD 6990?

Poll Results: Should I buy a GTX 590 or HD 6990?

 
  • 33% (12)
    GTX 590
  • 66% (24)
    HD 6990
36 Total Votes  
post #1 of 26
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So basically I'm in need to switch to a dual GPU card because my HD 5870 2GB Crossfire set-up runs too hot in my case because the cards are literally sandwiched together (top card is reaching 87ºC after a couple hours of BC2, I don't dare load Furmark). I can't decide whether to pick up a GTX 590 or HD 6990 so I need some help deciding from the OCN community.

I basically only play Battlefield Bad Company 2 regularly on my PC so I want the best performance on that game. I play World of Warcraft every so often when I resubscribe every few months as well so a card that plays it well is also a plus. I do sometimes pop in other games such as Portal, CS:S, Crysis, Metro 2033, AVP, Bioshock, etc but not on a regular basis. However, while I know we don't know much about the system requirements for this game, I want to have a card that will play Battlefield 3 at high settings at 4320x900 (essentially 2560x1600).

From what I've heard, a Core i7 and a single GTX 580 1.5GB is powering the rig that has been running all the gameplay demo's for the unoptimized pre-alpha version of Battlefield 3 (at what I would assume is high settings @ 1080p). So I would assume that either one of these dual-GPU cards will be able to run the final, optimized build of the game fine at max settings at 4320x900.

Both Bad Company 2 and World of Warcraft supposedly run better on Nvidia cards and I would assume so would Battlefield 3 because its the Frostbite 2.0 engine and extensive use of tessellation. However, the HD 6990 really flexes its muscles and shows almost equal performance but with 2GB VRam per card...but also more heat and noise which isn't a good thing in a P180 Mini.

So in my situation, what would be the better card for me?

**UPDATE 5/8**: I was deciding that I would just upgrade my case and motherboard, but after further thinking I decided upgrading the GPU's would be a better idea. Selling two graphics cards would be easier to do then a case and mATX motherboard and the graphics cards depreciate in value faster so selling them later one would be a bigger loss than a case/motherboard.

My second decision on selling my HD 5870's is the far inferior tessellation performance compared to the HD 6x00 and GTX 5xx series. This is important because most future DX11 titles, including Battlefield 3, will be extensively using tessellation.

This brings me to another situation for me in performance between the HD 6990 and GTX 590. From what I've seen the two cards seem to be relatively equal on normal/moderate tessellation levels but in extreme tessellation modes the GTX 590 seems to take a bit of a lead.

Then I couldn't decide that for my Eyefinity resolution of 4320x900 (essentially 2560x1600 when bezel compensation is added) if I would need more than the 1.5GB of ram of the GTX 590 and opt for the HD 6990. For me, that is really the only flaw I see with the GTX 590 in my situation. I know people hit the VRam wall with 1.5GB with higher Eyefinity resolutions such as 5760x1080 and up but that basically is over a third (38%) more pixels to process and store than the resolution I play at.

Basically what I've come up with:

GTX 590
+ Cooler
+ Much Quieter
+ Smaller
+ Great/Better Tessellation Performance
~ Equal overall performance with HD 6990
- Only 3GB VRam (1.5GB per card)
- Poor Overclocker
- Higher Power Consumption

HD 6990
+ Great Overclocker
+ 4GB VRam (2GB per card)
+ Lower Power Consumption
~ Equal overall performance with GTX 590
- Much Louder
- Slightly Hotter
- Slightly Bigger

I know most of you probably think that I should just wait to see how each card performs in Battlefield 3 but the problem is I'm in need of a solution now because I can't really game for a longer period of time now due to my cards running hot and possibly damaging them. Man do I wish the GTX 590 had 6GB of ram instead of 3GB and was like $100 more because that would be one beast of a card.

I also added a poll now as well.
Edited by exlink - 5/8/11 at 4:11pm
post #2 of 26
I would crank those fans up, and get a 2560x1600 monitor.

But if you don't want to do that, then get the 6990. It's cooler, quieter, and faster than the gtx 590. Then save up some money, and water cool it.
    
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water cool the gpus. best thing you can do. and cards in sli needs water to keep cool.
I would not get a single pcb with 2 gpus on it. BUT if i where to pick , ati one. only in the fact you can overclock it. 590 u cant they tend to explode
Well single 580 would be good. But that is almost the cost of a 6990.
I dont like ati, crappy drivers glitchy cards. But @ cost why not. I would get 6950 2 gb cards, Unlock them to 6970 and be faster and water blocks. best thing is get water setup.
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post #4 of 26
Find a better cooling solution, like water. If you must, my vote goes for the 6990
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SLI580w/3GB Vram @2560x1600...

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Would you guys think that maybe moving to a ATX solution case where the HD 5870's aren't sandwiched is a better idea? It comes out about $100-150 cheaper then upgrading the GPU's and gives me the option of waiting to see how the HD 5870 2GB Crossfire set-up fairs in Battlefield 3 and if it isn't well then I could upgrade to SLI/Crossfire single GPU cards like a HD 7000 or Nvidia's Kepler cards. Because honestly, upgrading from a HD 5870 2GB Crossfire set-up to a HD 6900 series crossfire (or GTX 580 SLI) set-up seems sort of pointless for the cost to upgrade them.

I'd get:

Fractal Design R3 Case
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4-B3 Motherboard
Corsair AX850 Power Supply

Which would run me about $500 shipped and about $270-$320 in net costs opposed to the $900+ shipped for the HD 6990/GTX 590 (this includes the PSU upgrade) and about $400-$430 in net costs.
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I vote for buying a new case.
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Xspc Rasa RX360 http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-75...t-pr-4780.html

2x EK 5870 blocks

A few more fittings

New tubing

Some distilled water

Silver coil or PT nuke

That will cost about $430 or so. That way, it will be very quiet, and stay cool so you can overclock.
    
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Originally Posted by Willanhanyard View Post
I would crank those fans up, and get a 2560x1600 monitor.

But if you don't want to do that, then get the 6990. It's cooler, quieter, and faster than the gtx 590. Then save up some money, and water cool it.
most definitely not true, the 6990 is probably the loudest GFX card in recent times.

to OP:

check some reviews off the cards, IIRC almost all of them show the 590 ahead in BC2 and especially WoW, where it kills the 6990.

But you have to remember that both cards run really hot and output a lot of heat.
 
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post #10 of 26
I have a P180 Mini and a GTX590 on a U3011. No problems from my end with temperatures or performance. I'd say go for the 590 simply if you want something quick and comfortable to live with. The 6990 is quicker than a 590 on average, but I can't live with a leaf blower, sorry.
Edited by ReignsOfPower - 5/4/11 at 10:18pm
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