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Originally Posted by HaiiYaa View Post
Ofcourse its pointless, but thats not the question

I ask if its possible
sure it's possible... i could also aggregate 10 100GBit links from my machine to my router... for an effective Terrabit network link to my router and cable modems...

just as pointless...

Pointless adj -- ...serving no useful purpose; see USB 3.0 Mice...
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post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by LiNERROR View Post
current usb 2.0 mice can poll at 1ms... ultra fast human response time is just under 100ms...


pointless...
It makes you wonder why some can tell the difference between 1ms and 2ms response time.
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post #13 of 25
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It makes you wonder why some can tell the difference between 1ms and 2ms response time.
Ofcourse no one can feel the difference but imagine losing a final in one of those esports event because of 1ms
post #14 of 25
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Originally Posted by EarlZ View Post
It makes you wonder why some can tell the difference between 1ms and 2ms response time.
I can tell the difference, but that's mainly due to my low sensitivity playing style. After a couple days my brain has adapted to which ever setting I'm using and I can continue playing without much struggle, but for those first few hours it does "feel" slightly different, at least to me.

As for usb 3.0, most boards are utilizing a secondary controller and will most likely add extra latency into the equation reguardless of polling rate.
Edited by Skylit - 5/6/11 at 12:42am
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Here's your answer: 0100110001001111010011000010000001001110001100000011000001000010001000010010000100100001001000010010000100100001
post #16 of 25
lol Glymbol, that made me laugh haha.

Anyway, from my understanding the theoretical maximum speed for USB 3.0 mice would be approximately a 24,000Hz polling rate, but I would doubt that speed would be achievable due to other considerations (125µs is more than achievable however). That being said, USB 3.0 is also non-serial, so it can send and receive packets at the same time. Also remember that transmission packet sizes are even smaller than that the standard 125µs window, so there's still some sort of transmission bottleneck with 3.0 if talking about getting a single packet of data from the mouse to the host (that and packet sizes aren't always the same iirc).

This is not my strongest area though as there's a lot about USB 3.0 that I never ended following up on in detail.
post #17 of 25
Every ms counts because in the end everything adds up. Monitor input lag, mouse, keyboard, cables, MB, CPU, RAM etc etc. By the time you make the move and the time you see it in the monitor you are far above 1ms.
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post #19 of 25
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Every ms counts because in the end everything adds up. Monitor input lag, mouse, keyboard, cables, MB, CPU, RAM etc etc. By the time you make the move and the time you see it in the monitor you are far above 1ms.

I support this opinion.

It's like when going from a monitor with a 5ms delay to a 2ms delay one some won't see the difference. But when you go vice versa it's highly noticeable.
post #20 of 25
Im thinking 2000hz poll is the next step to match windows timer resolution maximum. Ive already written to razer about it. Changing timer resolution to .5ms or 2000hz is a big help in allot of games. Im sure they will want to increment it instead of jumping straight so something ridiculous. I notice a big difference between 8ms lag 125hz and 1000hz i can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz. All you have to do is pickup a window and shake it on your desktop and you can see a difference. I find it odd you have to tell clockers that every chip has to be cooled and tweaked to its maximum. Peripheral/Monitor lag are the biggest lags in the system easily.

Lets be honest with taipan at 8200DPI is 10000DPI or 2000hz poll gonna be the deciding feature on your next purchase?
Edited by ColdFlo - 3/19/13 at 3:54pm
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