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NEW YORK--Free music is here to stay and punishing Lime Wire founder Mark Gorton for that fact is unjust and won't change a thing, Gorton's lawyers said in federal court today.

A trial to determine the amount of damages Gorton must pay the top four record companies for infringing their copyrights got under way in a federal courtroom here today. Gorton has a possible $1 billion judgment hanging over his head after the major music labels accused him in a 2006 copyright suit of encouraging music fans to use his company's LimeWire software to illegally swap music files.

Lime Wire's lawyers did not dispute that LimeWire was a peer-to-peer network that millions of people used over the past decade to obtain songs without paying artists or rights holders.

For the companies that produce the vast majority of today's popular music, the case is about shutting down a major file-sharing operation and making an example of Gorton. At stake for Lime Wire's founder is a potential judgment that could be financially ruinous.

A year ago, U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood found Gorton liable for willful copyright infringement and last October ordered Lime Wire to shut down. The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) wants Gorton and Lime Wire to pay the maximum amount under the law: $150,000 for each of the 9,715 albums it seeks damages for, or a total of $1.4 billion.

LimeWire as scapegoat

Burdening Gorton with a judgment that's even close to that figure would be wrong, Joseph Baio, one of Gorton's attorneys, said during his opening statement to the jury.
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And what about the filesharing sites? Megaupload? Rapidshare? Etc? They are never going to stop the flow of copyrighted material. Whether it be songs, books, movies, you name it, it can be found on the internet. They have every right to protect their IP's etc but suing someone for over a billion dollars. Well that's just stupid.

And what about the box that says I will not use this for copyright. Shouldn't that get him mostly off the hook as he took no responsibility for what was shared? Maybe I'm not understanding the laws correctly.
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^ I agree hellboy. It does say you will not share anything copyrighted. Burdening him with the billions of dollars worth of illegal music downloads isn't just. It's not only his fault, he just wrote a program. He didn't even create the P2P software Gnutella did he?
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True.
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I haven't used Limewire for about 8 years. You've got to be pretty inept with computers if that's your means of downloading music and files.
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I haven't used Limewire for about 8 years. You've got to be pretty inept with computers if that's your means of downloading music and files.
I think that is the basis of his defense, shutting his site down and fining him billions of dollars will not stop people from sharing music. At this point there is absolutely no way to stop it, you can e-mail it you can pass it through chat programs and you can drop it on removable media.

It's one guy with a big giant target painted on him because his program at the time was the easiest to learn to use for that purpose even though thats not what it was built for.
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You know, these corporate execs at the RIAA (and other organizations like them) are just leeches to everything that is decent and good in society. These Jackwads don't know how to find good music (or at least some variety) and market it to the masses anymore. Thus their steady sales decline over the past 2 decades.

It always someone else's fault for poor sales. They will not man up to the fact that they are out of touch with what the world wants to listen to anymore. They refuse to get with the times with technology. Every new medium that has come since the 'record' they have fought against and claimed it was the ruin of their future and the reason for poor sales earnings.

Good grief these people are idiots!
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Like the war on terror and the war on drugs, you cannot stop a concept. We can slow down piracy and/or minimize it but we cannot stop it.

If you believe we can you are an idiot. Have we removed organized crime? No, gangs took the place of the mafia and so something else will take the place of limewire.
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Notes: The judge told lawyers from both sides that she thought the trial could take as long as four weeks...The nine-person jury consisted of eight women and one man. Most of the jurors appear to be middle aged. Since the average techie and file sharer is male and since they typically are in their 20s or 30s, the jury didn't appear to favor Lime Wire.
He's screwed.

Problem with a lot of these trials is the fact that a lot of the jury will most liekly not be technical savvy. Because of this, companies like the RIAA will continue to win.
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post #10 of 47
so he either wins and loses little to no moneyz, or wins, files for bankruptcy (unless he has the moneyz?) and comes back with a vengeance?

They're never going to be able to stop the community
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