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what problems are there for the zacate?
Right now? Netflix 720p. Anything that breaks or doesn't support DXVA (RMVB, VobSub when using WMC internal player, non-compliant H.264 video, high bitrate 1080p H.264 from some HD camcorders, etc).
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Yes, I COULD wait and have better, more advanced options next year. But I'm looking to build this thing over time.. And I think rui-no-onna hit the gold with your reply. I think a Dual Core AMD processor will do us just fine. I could even go Quad Core if I so chose to. Which AMD chips provide the best Internal Graphics Processor?

I'm only going to be watching television / movies on this thing. I've decided. No gaming or Blu-Ray support. Just capable of playing all codecs no prob.
You don't need to way until next year for better options. Llano should be coming out June or July. At the very least, it might be worth waiting for those for potential price drops on current products.

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Also This has good reviews.. Was wondering what the difference was besides 3.1GHz and 2 dollars..
Frankly, there's no noticeable difference. You can go either way.

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Just had a talk with my dad about how to receive the digital OTA signal. He bought a Hauppauge USB Tuner That he says works just fine with his laptop. Would this be a good choice to use to receive (Around 10 local OTA channels is what he said) Would this work?
It would work. I have one of those but mine overheats after two hours of use causing dropped signals and choppiness, not to mention it can get dislocated quite easily. Coax cable is pretty stiff and heavy. Why not go with internal tuners such as the HVR-1250 or HVR-2250? The HVR-2250 even has dual tuners so you can record one channel which watching another.

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Note: I realize Cable is the best option for receiving many more Sporting events.. but there's always realtime online stats via ESPN / team websites for games that I want to see.. Even radio stations online you can listen to. So this isn't that big of a problem for me.
You can get real-time stats via the "Sports" menu on Windows Media Center.
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Right now? Netflix 720p. Anything that breaks or doesn't support DXVA (RMVB, VobSub when using WMC internal player, non-compliant H.264 video, high bitrate 1080p H.264 from some HD camcorders, etc).
but isn't that more of a software issue that will be fixed later? that's what i kind of figured while im building a zacate build now
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but isn't that more of a software issue that will be fixed later? *that's what i kind of figured while im building a zacate build now
Yes, it is. Silverlight 5 is supposed to bring DXVA support. It took more than a year after ION was released before Flash gained DXVA support.

What if some newfangled codec gets released that Zacate's GPU probably doesn't support? Where does that leave you? Either you won't be able to play content using the new codec or you're going to have to replace your MB/CPU.

Planning on using XBMC Live so you don't have to spend $100 on a Windows license? Oh wait, ATI graphics don't have VDPAU and the CPU's too slow to do software decoding of HD content.

It's not like Zacate's super cheap either. For around $10-20 more, you could go 880G + Athlon II X2 and have a significantly faster machine.

Not saying Zacate doesn't have its place. At the very least, it's made the Atom obsolete and is an infinitely better option for netbooks. With 6x SATA3 ports, I think it'll work great for a low power file server for those with more modest requirements. Just saying that if you want to have a relatively less troublesome HTPC experience, you don't want to go with a CPU that performs like processors from 5 years ago. Hmm, come to think of it, 5 years ago, we already had Core 2 and K8. Those are actually considerably faster than Zacate...
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Yes, it is. Silverlight 5 is supposed to bring DXVA support. It took more than a year after ION was released before Flash gained DXVA support.

What if some newfangled codec gets released that Zacate's GPU probably doesn't support? Where does that leave you? Either you won't be able to play content using the new codec or you're going to have to replace your MB/CPU.

Planning on using XBMC Live so you don't have to spend $100 on a Windows license? Oh wait, ATI graphics don't have VDPAU and the CPU's too slow to do software decoding of HD content.

It's not like Zacate's super cheap either. For around $10-20 more, you could go 880G + Athlon II X2 and have a significantly faster machine.

Not saying Zacate doesn't have its place. At the very least, it's made the Atom obsolete and is an infinitely better option for netbooks. With 6x SATA3 ports, I think it'll work great for a low power file server for those with more modest requirements. Just saying that if you want to have a relatively less troublesome HTPC experience, you don't want to go with a CPU that performs like processors from 5 years ago. Hmm, come to think of it, 5 years ago, we already had Core 2 and K8. Those are actually considerably faster than Zacate...
i dont think a newfangled codec is going to affect playback of files anytime soon. as long as it plays 1080p from bluray, it serves its purpose. besides, there will always be different options to encode it in some other format.

the os will be windows. most people use windows these days so i'm not sure how that's that big of a drawback.

as for the 'troublesome htpc experience' that you've described, you listed cpu speed. why would cpu speed even matter? as long as people just want to play hd media comfortably while saving power, i don't see how the zacate doesn't fit that bill. zacate definitely isnt going to win you benchmark arguments with your friends but it sure plays media well from what i've read
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It would work. I have one of those but mine overheats after two hours of use causing dropped signals and choppiness, not to mention it can get dislocated quite easily. Coax cable is pretty stiff and heavy. Why not go with internal tuners such as the HVR-1250 or HVR-2250? The HVR-2250 even has dual tuners so you can record one channel which watching another.
Thanks for the info on this Rui, I tried out my dad's 850, not a 950.. and I was not impressed with the channels it picked up in my room... which is unfortunately downstairs, also not helping, is that We live at the bottom of a hill. Probably works better upstairs.

Eh, idk, may end up just paying for directv of some sort. But a HTPC would still be nice to have I think. What's your opinion on having a small internal HDD to run windows, but have a large External HD I can just plug in via USB to the HTPC to get my movies off of? Or does this sorta defeat the purpose of a HTPC?
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Thanks for the info on this Rui, I tried out my dad's 850, not a 950.. and I was not impressed with the channels it picked up in my room... which is unfortunately downstairs, also not helping, is that We live at the bottom of a hill. Probably works better upstairs.

Eh, idk, may end up just paying for directv of some sort. But a HTPC would still be nice to have I think. What's your opinion on having a small internal HDD to run windows, but have a large External HD I can just plug in via USB to the HTPC to get my movies off of? Or does this sorta defeat the purpose of a HTPC?
an external to carry around movies sounds fine to me. It depends if you want to record shows onto your computer which would require a larger hard drive. a large secondary hard drive allows you to store media on it so you can stream it onto other devices such as an ipad or other computers (consolidating your music collection into one place ie). if your budget can support it, an ssd as a boot drive and a large hard drive to store digital media is always nice but at the same time, a luxury
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i dont think a newfangled codec is going to affect playback of files anytime soon. as long as it plays 1080p from bluray, it serves its purpose. besides, there will always be different options to encode it in some other format.
Existing files no. Google's already trying to promote WebM. I don't actually see YouTube moving to that format exclusively anytime soon but it's quite possible Zacate will have issues playing back HD content using WebM in the future.

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the os will be windows. most people use windows these days so i'm not sure how that's that big of a drawback.
OP was actually considering XBMC Live, initially, until he was informed that a Windows version was available. However, this is a valid concern for some folks. When you only have a $300 budget for your PC and are trying to stay legal, spending $100 on a Windows license isn't a particularly good idea.

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as for the 'troublesome htpc experience' that you've described, you listed cpu speed. why would cpu speed even matter? as long as people just want to play hd media comfortably while saving power, i don't see how the zacate doesn't fit that bill. zacate definitely isnt going to win you benchmark arguments with your friends but it sure plays media well from what i've read
I never said anything about benchmarking. It's the fact that Zacate has trouble playing back certain types of content/media. CPU speed matters when it's not enough and in Zacate's case, it clearly isn't when the content it's trying to play can't be offloaded to the GPU. Zacate's good so long as the GPU is doing majority of the work. Once you start requiring more CPU power, then tough luck.

By the way, Sandy Bridge has very low power consumption. Paired with the right motherboard, it's possible to get just 20W power usage during video playback. My Celeron E3300+GF9300 consumes around 35W while my Clarkdale build uses 30W during playback. The Zacate build (yes, I do own one) uses 28W during playback. Even AMD's Athlon II's aren't that bad albeit power consumption isn't quite as low as Intel CPU's (I expect to see some major power savings with Llano). Modern desktop processors have come a long way with their power gating techniques. You don't really need to get Zacate or Atom for lower power consumption.

It's not like I'm saying to go get 8-core Bulldozer or 4-core Sandy Bridge. Just that Zacate and Atom have too little processing power. A $50 Celeron E3400 or Athlon II X2 240 should work quite well.

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I don't see any issue with using an external HDD. I have a 12TB file server so I also use small drives (SSD's as of late) for OS and just have the data stored on the server. Just make sure the external you buy has adequate cooling. I had a few Western Digital My Books and drive temps on those went up to 70C. Needless to say, they're not very ideal for 24/7 usage.
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I don't see any issue with using an external HDD. I have a 12TB file server so I also use small drives (SSD's as of late) for OS and just have the data stored on the server. Just make sure the external you buy has adequate cooling. I had a few Western Digital My Books and drive temps on those went up to 70C. Needless to say, they're not very ideal for 24/7 usage.
HAHAHA.. yeah.. not a very good product. I'd be making my own. Buying OEM then buying an Enclosure. Or maybe one of those open ones where all you have to do is sit the HDD in it.. but then i'd have to get two of those.. blah. I'll get a usb enclosure. heh
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Existing files no. Google's already trying to promote WebM. I don't actually see YouTube moving to that format exclusively anytime soon but it's quite possible Zacate will have issues playing back HD content using WebM in the future.


OP was actually considering XBMC Live, initially, until he was informed that a Windows version was available. However, this is a valid concern for some folks. When you only have a $300 budget for your PC and are trying to stay legal, spending $100 on a Windows license isn't a particularly good idea.


I never said anything about benchmarking. It's the fact that Zacate has trouble playing back certain types of content/media. CPU speed matters when it's not enough and in Zacate's case, it clearly isn't when the content it's trying to play can't be offloaded to the GPU. Zacate's good so long as the GPU is doing majority of the work. Once you start requiring more CPU power, then tough luck.

By the way, Sandy Bridge has very low power consumption. Paired with the right motherboard, it's possible to get just 20W power usage during video playback. My Celeron E3300+GF9300 consumes around 35W while my Clarkdale build uses 30W during playback. The Zacate build (yes, I do own one) uses 28W during playback. Even AMD's Athlon II's aren't that bad albeit power consumption isn't quite as low as Intel CPU's (I expect to see some major power savings with Llano). Modern desktop processors have come a long way with their power gating techniques. You don't really need to get Zacate or Atom for lower power consumption.

It's not like I'm saying to go get 8-core Bulldozer or 4-core Sandy Bridge. Just that Zacate and Atom have too little processing power. A $50 Celeron E3400 or Athlon II X2 240 should work quite well.

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hmm, what codec only utilizes cpu these days jw? id love to use sandy btw but im building a mini itx htpc
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