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post #21 of 34
I have used both for 2 or 3 day periods, tweaking for people. I like the Alienware. Solid! Get the extended warranty and upgrades.
 
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I personally went for Alienware because I wanted a 14" screen, blacklit keyboard, slot-load dvd player, good sound quality, and a nice looking case. Also I had no experience with Sager, I don't know how their build quality is or sound quality, and I didn't get to personally see their case. Their $100 no-dead pixel warranty or they won't fix it turned me off right away as did their $40+ price tag on premuim thermal paste.

I heard that Sager's customer support is horrible so a lot of people purchase Sagers under an umbrella company such as xoticpc. But with purchasing a gaming laptop for $1000+ I didn't want a plain-jane thinkpad looking case with no backlit keyboard and a tray load optical drive. The finish on the Alienware case is really nice as well.
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post #23 of 34
I'm an employee of *cough* that owns a Sager...

I own it for various reasons considering my office tests current products and we always welcome a bit of competition.

My complaints, actually, are the exact same as they would be if I owned an Alienware.

Plastics aren't quality enough for field use, some 2nd rate parts...Don't get me started on the screens...

Both companies get basically the same parts, hate to break that to all of you but, the lowest bidder always wins and it's 7/10 times the same vendor for both companies...

All in all, I find them to be equals.

Were I a consumer picking between the two, I'd go with the better customer service.

Sometimes Alienware/Dell CS is better, sometimes, when I actually get my Sager rep, Sager is better but, at this point, CS would be a VERY strong reason for buying either product.
post #24 of 34
For the stock specs, I could get a $1200 Sager and get the same performance as the M18x. Overpriced as usual. The M14x is the only Alienware laptop that isn't overpriced.

For $3000 The Sager has a better CPU, Twin high end GPUs, 12GB of RAM, Twin 500GB HDDs that you can set up in RAID 0 for no extra charge, need I say more?

For $2000 The Alienware has a SB quad, a single less than amazing GPU, 4GB of RAM, 320GB HDD, I mean come ON!? How would anyone buy this thing?

This is no contest.

Here's a better comparison:

What would you pick? Stock specs only. This M18x or this Sager NP8130
     
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post #25 of 34
Why does everyone compare the m18x with the 15in Sager? If you want the closest comparison, compare it to the x7200. The only other dual gpu notebook currently for sale. Current SB mobile cpus are on par with last generation desktop i7s.

My m18x with a 2720QM, 6GB 1333, 2 500GB momentus xt's in RAID 0, Xfire 6970m, Bluray and 6200 wifi is $3009. (I actually got it for $2364 from AAFES.)

The similarly equipped x7200 from xoticpc is $3159. Main difference being the desktop i7-960 which the 2720QM bests in passmark and is on par with in other benchmarks. With the Sager you get 3 year labor and 1 year parts warranty stock which bests Dellienwares 1 year labor/parts stock. But with Sager you have to ship your computer to them and with Dell you will get a technician at your house more often than not.
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Why does everyone compare the m18x with the 15in Sager? If you want the closest comparison, compare it to the x7200. The only other dual gpu notebook currently for sale. Current SB mobile cpus are on par with last generation desktop i7s.

My m18x with a 2720QM, 6GB 1333, 2 500GB momentus xt's in RAID 0, Xfire 6970m, Bluray and 6200 wifi is $3009. (I actually got it for $2364 from AAFES.)

The similarly equipped x7200 from xoticpc is $3159. Main difference being the desktop i7-960 which the 2720QM bests in passmark and is on par with in other benchmarks. With the Sager you get 3 year labor and 1 year parts warranty stock which bests Dellienwares 1 year labor/parts stock. But with Sager you have to ship your computer to them and with Dell you will get a technician at your house more often than not.
Because it's showing you that you can get a $1200 Sager notebook that is set up better, and is smaller, than a $2000 machine. Alienware has always been known for being extremely overpriced and the trend stays. Sager gives you a better deal for less money. It's been proven time and time again. The M14x is the only deal that looks even remotely decent.

EDIT 1: You can't talk by the way. You got yours from some severely discounted Military outfit. Ex-Air Force personnel here. I know full well the kind of deals you can get through AAFES. If I could have gotten a $750 discount off something, then hell yes I would. However, that doesn't mean that it ISN'T overpriced.

EDIT 2: Not to mention the fastest SB Quad matches the i7-950, which is impressive, but when you can get a 990X in a laptop, how can you possibly want to pass that up? I mean seriously. And Passmark isn't a good measure of how good a CPU is. It states the 1090T is equal to an i7-930 at stock speeds when all threads are used... however games don't use more than four cores usually so the system is a little skewered. Passmark is like the Intel Burn Test. It merely measures the Gflops that the CPU is capable of. If an i7 920 can put out 50 Gflops and an overclocked Phenom II can put out 50 Gflops, does this mean they're equal? In all out processing power, maybe, but games and other programs will test that theory more heavily.

I don't doubt that the latest mobile SB chips are amazing, I want the Qosmio model that has the new SB i5. But that doesn't mean I'd take one over the last generation's Desktop i5 line. Same thing. Who leaves their previous generation i5/i7 at stock for more than a week anyway?
Edited by Imglidinhere - 5/11/11 at 12:41pm
     
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Alienware, want any decent features go with em, plus you get a sick case
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Alienware, want any decent features go with em, plus you get a sick case
Decent features? Like what?

And a sick looking case huh? One with a high steal value... Subtle has all the bells and whistles.
     
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post #29 of 34
Wanted to ask. Have that many people had that many bad experiences with Alienware or is the issue with Alienware based solely on price? Wanting to know as I am looking into purchasing a gaming laptop in the not too distant future.
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post
Because it's showing you that you can get a $1200 Sager notebook that is set up better, and is smaller, than a $2000 machine. Alienware has always been known for being extremely overpriced and the trend stays. Sager gives you a better deal for less money. It's been proven time and time again. The M14x is the only deal that looks even remotely decent.

EDIT 1: You can't talk by the way. You got yours from some severely discounted Military outfit. Ex-Air Force personnel here. I know full well the kind of deals you can get through AAFES. If I could have gotten a $750 discount off something, then hell yes I would. However, that doesn't mean that it ISN'T overpriced.

EDIT 2: Not to mention the fastest SB Quad matches the i7-950, which is impressive, but when you can get a 990X in a laptop, how can you possibly want to pass that up? I mean seriously. And Passmark isn't a good measure of how good a CPU is. It states the 1090T is equal to an i7-930 at stock speeds when all threads are used... however games don't use more than four cores usually so the system is a little skewered. Passmark is like the Intel Burn Test. It merely measures the Gflops that the CPU is capable of. If an i7 920 can put out 50 Gflops and an overclocked Phenom II can put out 50 Gflops, does this mean they're equal? In all out processing power, maybe, but games and other programs will test that theory more heavily.

I don't doubt that the latest mobile SB chips are amazing, I want the Qosmio model that has the new SB i5. But that doesn't mean I'd take one over the last generation's Desktop i5 line. Same thing. Who leaves their previous generation i5/i7 at stock for more than a week anyway?
Ha ya the AAFES thing is what pushed me from Sager to Alienware. Besides the fact I always wanted one.. they ARE priced a little up there. I got lucky and am by no means the average case.

As far as SB mobile vs last gen i7: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...idge,2851.html

I would take a SB mobile anyday... and I would also take a SB desktop part anyday just to clear that up.

Considering the forum I would hope NO ONE leaves their desktop parts stock. Im going laptop now because I want there to be no difference whatsoever between gaming on my desktop and gaming on my laptop. No compromise! Because of that I have waited until now to even purchase a laptop! Yep, first one.
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