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And that wasnt even the point anyways, if 28 min FPS makes you lower settings then imagine how much you will have to on the 1GB to make it smooth.....that's the point.
Well I don't know, normally setting the AA and AF down to 8x already helps massively with performance issues and you only see the difference between 8x and 16x on still pictures anyway. In fluid gameplay it all looks the same.
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Well I don't know, normally setting the AA and AF down to 8x already helps massively with performance issues and you only see the difference between 8x and 16x on still pictures anyway. In fluid gameplay it all looks the same.
Since when did AF helped with anything? Ever since the G80, AF is an irrelevant issue now.

And if you'll notice the metro 2033 chart is not running any AA.....
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2GB is the way to go on ATI upper mid-range and high-end cards. Or if you want to go with Nvidia, there are also some GTX560 ti 2GB versions. Or if you can find a GTX480 for a bargain as stores are selling the last stock, that is also great. If you want to go with a GTX580, you should definitively go with the 3GB version. It's not that the card will use 3GB of VRAM right now, it could probably have 2GB, but Nvidia's memory bus makes it easier to be either 1.5 or 3, and since a GTX580 is not cheap to begin with, you won't regret paying a little more to get the right card.

The advice I give to everybody going for an upper midrange or high-end card now is to get 1.5GB, 2GB or 3GB.

1.28GB as seen on the GTX470 and 570 is not a wise investment in the future (some games already use that amount to it's full at 1680x1050), unless you game with lower quality settings or want to replace the card in six months. It's not a good long-term buy anymore. I bet Nvidia would have liked to sell the GTX570 with at least 1.5 GB, but cost reasons from their expensive to make GPU dictated that.

As to the min. fps question, I fully agree. Most sites already do, but it should be made always. Sometimes the min fps below a certain level (and certainly 22 fps vs 28fps makes a HUGE difference, it really does), just ruin the experience.

Bear in mind I'm talking to an OCN audience here. Some people will be just fine with a lower amount of VRAM and use lower quality settings. I've come across some people that start thinking in "good enough" terms. I've been there. But now I have a proper gaming card This site is not the place for "good enough" LOL. Maybe you have to live with "good enough" and that's fine. But there is nothing wrong in wanting the best. It's what makes the industry go forward.
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lol @ above poster...I just finished playing a long session of AC Brotherhood all maxed at 1080p with no issues whatsoever and man that game looks gorgeous. What RAM issues are we talking about ? Max usage was 626mb checked with MSI Afterburner. And as I said, everything ON/max including 8xAA.

Also, 22 and 28 FPS makes no difference whatsoever. It's still under the 30FPS threshold for smooth gameplay.

The problem is GPU and memory speed. When games will require 2GB for max details you can be sure that current GPUs won't be up to the task. It's like trying to play GTA 4 on a 2GB GTX 550. And by then I'm pretty sure any respectable PC gamer will buy a new card.
Edited by Wulfgar - 5/10/11 at 10:53pm
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lol @ above poster...I just finished playing a long session of AC Brotherhood all maxed at 1080p with no issues whatsoever and man that game looks gorgeous. What RAM issues are we talking about ? Max usage was 626mb checked with MSI Afterburner. And as I said, everything ON/max including 8xAA.

Also, 22 and 28 FPS makes no difference whatsoever. It's still under the 30FPS threshold for smooth gameplay.

The problem is GPU and memory speed. When games will require 2GB for max details you can be sure that current GPUs won't be up to the task. It's like trying to play GTA 4 on a 2GB GTX 550. And by then I'm pretty sure any respectable PC gamer will buy a new card.
You can lol what you want, but if you read the post properly I said this is not for everybody and most people will be fine with cards with less VRAM. However, depending on the game and quality settings, you cannot rule out that you might benefit from the extra framebuffer. Just because your game doesn't require more, it's not the only game in the world you know ? I can also get that kind of VRAM usage you are getting, playing Portal 2 at Full HD LOL.


Moreover, if you decide to SLI, 3GB is essential, as the cards VRAM does not add up. Two 1.5 GB cards does not make one 3GB card. The games will still only have 1.5GB to work with. The same with Crossfire and 1GB cards vs 2GB cards. That means you have the horsepower but would lack the VRAM to take advantage of it.


If you want to play games that require more than 1GB of VRAM today, play Crysis, Crysis Warhead, GTA IV, Metro 2033, Shogun 2.

And as more games come out with high resolution texture packs, you'll be regretting only having a 1GB card. A GTX570 /580 is pretty much capable of taking advantage of 2GB for texture storage. So is the HD6950/6970.
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