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Hey everybody,

So I want to upgrade my Mom's computer for Mother's day. She currently has an old desktop with some old P4 processor, I'm not too sure about the details of the system. I plan on replacing the processor with a Phenom II X2 555 BE and I plan on replacing the motherboard with a Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P which has built in video. Since she only uses the machine for Facebook and email, I figured only 2GB of DDR3 RAM was necessary. I'd be installing Win7 ultimate because her system is just loaded up with so much crap from over the years that it lags for anything.

Here are the parts:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813128469
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820146744
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16819103846

I'm not too sure if the drives connected are IDE or SATA, do you think I would encounter any problems there? Also, has the standard connection for power supplies changed since the P4 days?

This system refresh would cost just under $200 Canadian, so if anybody had any better ideas for that price, I'd love to hear them!
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Buy it on NCIX, significantly cheaper than Newegg in Canada

You should be getting her dual channel memory for the best performance.... it's very cheap nowadays anyway. You can have a dual channel 4GB DDR3 kit for around the same price (shipped) as the one you chose
I also highly recommend at LEAST a 785G or 880G motherboard. HD playback capability should be a minimum standard in modern PC builds, with sites that offer HD such as YouTube becoming more and more popular. I would not stick my own family on anything less than HD capable with full GPU acceleration.
post #3 of 17
My recommendation goes to:
Athlon II x2 250 - $57 (no difference between Ath II x2 & Ph II x2 for her needs)
MSI 785GM-P45 - $57
Kingston 2x2GB DDR3-1066 generic CL7 kit - $31 price matched

Price match occurs in the shopping cart. Copy and paste the URL as well as cost as competing site (both provided for you). Shipping is $6 for the entire order as offered by NCIX during the recent sale, if your order is above $50 and under 100 lbs.

Total cost:
$151 shipped

Over $30 saved for 785G chipset mobo (full HD playback), 2x RAM, and a processor that will make no difference for your mom (diff. is not unlockable to 4 cores and no L3 cache but does that really matter anyway?)
Edited by xd_1771 - 5/5/11 at 6:00pm
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Try this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-199-_-Product

If you only need 2GB, then get this dual channel kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231208


And I know it's not necessary she have anything more than a dual core.. but here is a quad core for $10 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-871-_-Product

Just doesn't get the extra L3 Cache like the Phenom's do.

Or if you don't need a quad then get the dual core posted above. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-871-_-Product

Total cost with dual core:$148.97
Total cost with quad core:$187.97

With my board you get the newer 880G chipset vs. 785G. All up to you though.
Edited by iinversion - 5/5/11 at 6:02pm
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post #5 of 17
You can get 2x2GB of equal generic memory for the same price as 2x1GB or 1x2GB, I just pointed it out

The kit originally chosen is $19 + $10 shipping = $29
Kit you chose: $28 shipped
Kit I chose: $31 ($6 shipping applying to entire order), 2x the RAM for same price
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You can get 2x2GB of equal generic memory for the same price as 2x1GB or 1x2GB, I just pointed it out

The kit originally chosen is $19 + $10 shipping = $29
Kit you chose: $28 shipped
Kit I chose: $31 ($6 shipping applying to entire order), 2x the RAM for same price
I don't know what the prices are on NCIX, but the cheapest route is to go with xd's kit, but I'd recommend getting the newer 880G chipset. Here is a similar board from NCIX

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56562&...cture=Gigabyte

It's a little more but also comes with a $10 mail in rebate leaving you with a rough cost of $6-7 more.
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There is little to no difference between 785G and 880G, in fact they're just the same with 880G having higher clocks, and in addition 785G easily overclocks to that. In terms of features, neither have an advantage unless paired with newer southbridge (i.e. SATAIII/USB3).... but honestly with neither SATAIII nor USB3 even close to mainstream right now, that doesn't matter
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Hey xd and iinversion,

Thanks a lot, you guys really helped out.
I ended up going with xd's suggestions but I still got the Phenom instead because I can unlock a core or possibly 2 when the system starts to become obsolete again. I really appreciate the help!
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Originally Posted by johny24 View Post
Hey xd and iinversion,

Thanks a lot, you guys really helped out.
I ended up going with xd's suggestions but I still got the Phenom instead because I can unlock a core or possibly 2 when the system starts to become obsolete again. I really appreciate the help!
Just remember, unlocking those cores does not mean gauranteed stability. They are usually locked because of such cases. The lucky ones are the 3 or 4 cored CPU's with locked cores to supply the demand for a lower core'd CPU.

However, too late but always shoot for around 4gb with windows 7. Just ensures faster speeds and loading times for the newest OS and for the future programs.
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Just remember, unlocking those cores does not mean gauranteed stability. They are usually locked because of such cases. The lucky ones are the 3 or 4 cored CPU's with locked cores to supply the demand for a lower core'd CPU.

However, too late but always shoot for around 4gb with windows 7. Just ensures faster speeds and loading times for the newest OS and for the future programs.
He does make a good point.. Right now I'm on Windows 7 Ultimate and I'm at 63% RAM usage out of my 4GB. ... And I'm not really doing much.. I think it's around 35% when I have nothing opened. So.. your mom will be running roughly 70% RAM with nothing opened. Not sure if that is a good idea, but then again she could have more than enough extra space.
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