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OCN, the magical forum where your favorite Antivirus/Browser/Brand/GPU/CPU/PSU etc. is the best simply because you said so. It doesn't matter if a review proves something is a turd because any review that proves your favorite product has flaws is obviously a big fat biased lie that should be ignored at all costs.

This "review" site is owned by AV companies for the sole purpose of bashing free AV and plugging their own products. It's a crap review.
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I'm sorry, ever since MSE told me bing toolbar was a trojan downloader, I can't take it seriously.
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I was thinking about that, too. There are a lot of fake av review sites.
I have to say that these results certainly seem fake to me.

I noticed Sophos AV on the list and read their detailed report. It is a big load of BS. My company uses Sophos because our IS Officer loves it, but the IT Dept. hates it. It constantly flags legitimate software and IT tools (even ones you can download from Microsoft's website) as malware or hacker's tools. It constantly chews up 100-150MB of RAM for just the main AV service (don't remember the name at the moment), even on XP PC's with only 1GB, which is a hell of a lot. All of the combined services for Avira on my home PC use around 25 - 30 MB.

According to the report on this website, it had Zero false positives and is below the industry average on PC slow down...
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The "problem" is junk accumulated from every day use. I'll stick with my fresh installs instead of wasting time to clean it all out manually.
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these are very true statements but the really the only time you should totally fresh install is when windows starts to lag but not do to a virus but if you just reformat casue of a virus you could just get it again .






i prefer avira over avast go for the avira
Well I don't know what you guys do with your computers, but I've had the same Win7 install for over a year now, and it's still as snappy as it was when I installed it. The only maintenance I do is the occasional CCleaner disk cleanup / registry scan and a defrag.

Reformatting honestly should be looked at as a last resort to fix a problem, even a virus.
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Should I worry
go back to avg? < I think bad idea
hows kaspersky?
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I'm tired of people saying "Omg, if you are just smart you won't get a virus."

Even the most seasoned professional skydivers wear a reserve chute. "LOL IF U PACK UR CHUTE CORRECTLY U DONT NEED TO LUG THAT THING AROUND."

No. You lug your goddamn reserve chute around because the extra few pounds is worth it for safety.

Likewise, you take the tiny performance hit from using an AV program because no matter how awesome you are, accidents happen.
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I'm tired of people saying "Omg, if you are just smart you won't get a virus."

Even the most seasoned professional skydivers wear a reserve chute. "LOL IF U PACK UR CHUTE CORRECTLY U DONT NEED TO LUG THAT THING AROUND."

No. You lug your goddamn reserve chute around because the extra few pounds is worth it for safety.

Likewise, you take the tiny performance hit from using an AV program because no matter how awesome you are, accidents happen.
^This. (Minus the anger. lol )

I think some people are just waiting to loose on their data before they learn.
For those who advocate: "Back up always and you'll be fine!", you have a lot to learn about viruses. If you get one and don't know its there and make a system image or whatever your backup preference is, you're still pooped no matter what if it is a destructive one. Better safe than sorry.
While I agree that not everyone has ultra cutting-edge hardware... (and thus, this is directed at those who complain and yet have average++ hardware), come on. Complaining about <100MB use with 4GB+ ram? Or a 2% (or more) on a mid-high end CPU? Really?.... of course, that doesn't mean that we should look for resource-hungry AV's too... i like my clock cycles and megabytes lol.

The point is, get an AV to keep yourself protected. But it definitely is not THE solution to viruses... i agree. Get an AV, and be smart. Those two when it comes to virus handling are not mutually exclusive
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Well MSE is a huge threat to all the AV programs free and paid.

Remember firewalls? Yeah that used to be a staple software business before MS integrated a firewall into Windows. At first it was integrated but disabled by default then it was eventually enabled by default. Hopefully MS does the same with MSE.
Yup it does, during install it asks you if it's allowed to automatically enable Windows Firewall if no third-party FW is available.
I have used MSE myself just barely after it released and I love it.
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Yeah, no huh? Did you read the report? AV-Comparatives focuses only on the ability of AV programs to catch viruses. If a program is clunky or user unfriendly is not a factor.

In the testing for the February 2011 report, McAfee actually had ZERO false positives combined with catching over 96% of all tested viruses and malware.

You can't argue with the statistics collected by AV-Comparatives without appearing ignorant.
I can argue about statistics collected by ANYONE and not appear ignorant.

Now I'm not targeting you or anything but I wouldn't believe anything good about McAfee because I know it's not true (this might be goin a weeeeeeebit far but w/e).

...Have you even used McAfee? Cause if you have I'd think we wouldn't have this talk at all.
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Those so-called AV tests aren't 100% reliable.
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