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Two separate arguments, a business is in place to profit and thus it is entirely up to them if something is worth pursuing. The court system on the other hand is in place to prosecute crimes, how much is its is (or should be) immaterial to them
Absolutely. I'm really talking about the mentality, and slightly outside the scope of the topic...

The point I'm trying to make is relative to the company as an entity and the morality of the employee, but I think it is an intractable argument that won't have any real resolve.
    
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No, no guards. I worked at wally world and they have the same policy. Anyone who steals is to be left alone. The police will be called and a report will be filed. Again: company policy at ALL major stores is not to pursue thieves.
So, this almoast makes it too easy to steal things especially if the theif wears a disguise, dies the hair, and ditches the clothing. A dumb police report is made out.

OK, if even 40% of the shoppers did this, would we still have low prices ???

Of course, most computers now days come with an identifier V-chip, so once connected to the internet, the location becomes easier to find the thief.
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While a good point, there is no catch 22, the insurance company knows the policies just as well as best buy. Its not about the chance of intervention, its the threat of intervention. Same as hanging a security camera outside your house that isnt hooked to anything or sticking the alarm company sign in your lawn when you dont have an alarm. Its the threat of force, criminals and honestly humans in general follow the path of least resistance, they will hit a store that doesnt have security, before they hit one that does, just that simple.
And I agree with you 110% on your point. It's the "deterrent" effect that is looked upon to prevent the criminal act. I guess when it comes to insurance we need to sit and determine what we are talking about... Theft insurance (the insurance to replace the item stolen or at least its' value) or Liability insurance (the insurance that covers you should something happen to an employee or a customer within the work place). I guess liability insurance would be much higher than the theft at the end of the day and maybe I was looking at both policies as being the one and the same.

Either way, the customer pays for the insurance premium increases as things happen.

So much for civic duty!

I do suddenly have this urge to walk into Victoria's Secret and w;alk off with a few thongs!!! For the wifey you know... (ahem)
post #124 of 244
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No, no guards. I worked at wally world and they have the same policy. Anyone who steals is to be left alone. The police will be called and a report will be filed. Again: company policy at ALL major stores is not to pursue thieves.
Still that's stupid man. They can just get away with it again elsewhere? It's like you're asking it's ok to just let someone steal something and you just report it without stopping them! That's just plain stupid. I'd stop them no matter what then get a lawyer and tell them the policy is screwed up no matter what cuz it's instincts to stop someone stealing. Not even his fault. He did the right thing to stop the theft. Give this guy a raise!
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Just take a pix of the thief and give it to police. I guess the policy also helps to deter vigilantism as well...

Still not fully in agreement but it does have some merits. I guess I should take down my "Shoplifters will be shot" sign as being too aggressive or something... psychologically abusive maybe?
post #126 of 244
I'm not going to read through 4 pages to see whether this has been discussed or debated.

The thief never left the store and was trapped in the store by the employee from the sounds of the few sentences I read from the article. If this is the case, then absolutely he should be fired and could also possibly have legal action taken against him.

It kinda goes along with the "innocent until proven guilty" where they can't stop and accuse you of stealing until you have walked out of the store without paying for the product and thus, actually commuted the crime. Despite the thief had intent by trying to go through the back door, the employee still illegally trapped and held him there against his own will.

Now that all doesn't really seem that bad, personally if I could, I'd trap a thief in my house and wait for the police to arrive. It's different when you're an employee representing a company though. Best Buy has to break ties with the employee in the companies best interest.
    
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Well, its the US so I guess anything can happen.


Technically the thief shouldn't be able to do anything. He was in the midst of committing a crime, so all blame falls on him. If by some stroke of misfortune the employee missed the tackle and went head first into the wall, splitting his skull and killing him, the thief could be facing a 2nd degree felony murder charge.
    
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post #128 of 244
Then... I guess that's why no one intervened to try and help this woman, right? Someone might get hurt?

Video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

News Report: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/0...-co-mcdonalds/
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Then... I guess that's why no one intervened to try and help this woman, right? Someone might get hurt?

Video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

News Report: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/0...-co-mcdonalds/
Totally unrelated situation.
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Totally unrelated situation.
Ok... if you think so. I don't agree though.
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