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Originally Posted by Sohryu76 View Post
A person was getting hurt...

as opposed to someone making off with two items.

BIG Difference.
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If the company is worried about getting sued, and not the moral nature of the crime, how would that be a different situation?
Personally, I think thats when personal morals come in. At least for me, and I cant speak for everyone, because my morals are perhaps a bit thinner than most. I was raised in a "if you have to cut that guys throat and bankrupt that family to get ahead, then do it" type of family.

We had a situation around where I live a few months ago, where in the middle of a store a 3 year old girl walked one isle over from her parents and a guy jumped on her and started tearing her clothes off. If I were an employee at that store, knowing full well I could lose my job, and perhaps my freedom, I would have done my best to end him. If the same guy tried to walk out with something, and my company policy was not to touch him, I might even open the door, I am following the rules. If someone is being hurt, thats when my concern for my job goes out the window, if I get fired saving a life or saving someone from pain...I have no qualms with that.
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post #142 of 244
It's just a shame that it has come to this, where companies need to have policies such as this in place. I can understand the idea of wanting to make sure your employees remain safe from harm, but the other part where you have to be afraid of harm caused to the criminal really upsets me. The fact that someone who is willfully breaking the law has any rights at all, or the opportunity to sue a store, just because they were injured while committing a crime make me ashamed of how things have become. I guess the part that upsets me the most is judges that actually allow those types of cases to be heard in court. No common sense at all anymore.

Reminds me of an episode of Married with Children where a guy breaks into Al's house and Al beats him up. The robber takes Al to court because robbery is his job and Al made it so that he couldn't work anymore due to the injury.
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post #143 of 244
Are you guys all looking for citizenship awards or something?

If you're at your job, you're there to do your job. If security guard is not part of your job description, then you should not be involved with stopping a thief or breaking up a fight.

In the end, laws differ from country to country. There's someone a few posts above stating stuff like they wrote a book on it, yet it's totally incorrect and irrelevant to Canada.

If a criminal tried to break into my house during the winter and slipped on my doorstep because it wasn't sanded, they do have ground to sue me in court for the injuries. Same thing goes if you get tackled by an employee in their store.
    
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If you're at your job, you're there to do your job. If security guard is not part of your job description, then you should not be involved with stopping a thief or breaking up a fight.
This is the case. in fact, even as a police officer, it is limiting to how fast you can "tackle" someone to the ground.
    
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post #145 of 244
I work loss prevention at best buy (The guy at the front doors at the desk)

We are told from day one, that we are not supposed to EVER make physical contact with a customer. It's a corporation policy because the thief can easily create a million+ dollar lawsuit, when the thief at most would get away with $2000.
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I work loss prevention at best buy (The guy at the front doors at the desk)

We are told from day one, that we are not supposed to EVER make physical contact with a customer. It's a corporation policy because the thief can easily create a million+ dollar lawsuit, when the thief at most would get away with $2000.
I'm starting to think the legality of this differs greatly between Canada and the USA.

In the USA you can pull a fire arm on someone if they enter your home can you not? Where as in Canada, I'm fairly sure you can't pull a firearm unless it's self defense even if they broke into your home.
    
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post #147 of 244
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I'm starting to think the legality of this differs greatly between Canada and the USA.

In the USA you can pull a fire arm on someone if they enter your home can you not? Where as in Canada, I'm fairly sure you can't pull a firearm unless it's self defense even if they broke into your home.
Not only pull a fire arm, but flat out cut them down

Castle doctrine, read up
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Very unfortunate for the employee, however that's the way most store policies work.
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Not only pull a fire arm, but flat out cut them down

Castle doctrine, read up
Does that mean you could have a guillotine gauntlet for your front hallway?

If so, I'm moving just so I can do that.

EDIT: What a post to reach 3500!
    
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I'm starting to think the legality of this differs greatly between Canada and the USA.

In the USA you can pull a fire arm on someone if they enter your home can you not? Where as in Canada, I'm fairly sure you can't pull a firearm unless it's self defense even if they broke into your home.
It depends on the state. In NC, you can shoot someone in the act of a break in, but you better be SURE it is needed. If an elderly person or a brother in town was trying to get in because they had dementia/lost their phone respectively, you can be found guilty of murder. If it was a guy with an axe, your in the clear to shoot. Once they are in your house, firearms can be used for self defense in fear of your life, or in fear of rape. Women have it easy because if a male breaks in, all you have to do is kill them and tell officer you heard him say rape.
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