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post #201 of 244
He shouldn't have done it. He put himself and the rest of the staff and customers at risk. At the mall near where I grew up a staff member tried to chase down a kid stealing hats, he got knifed for his trouble. If this guy the Best Buy employee tackled decides he's not going back to jail and pulls out a gun now his life and others lives are at risk.

If was a good employee then maybe they should have just given him a written warning but otherwise you can't expect to break a company policy like this, one you know full well, and not have repercussions.
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It's not just Lawyers and Courts though, it's WE the PEOPLE who are to blame. Every single one of us. And it's a damn shame that so many have fought and/or died for our freedoms and we've let it go to waste by allowing scumbags like this to get a slap on the rest for theft, and scumbags at Best Buy get nothing for firing someone who did the right thing.
Except he didn't do the right thing. He put himself and the rest of the people near him when it happened at risk. Also, unless you can point to a link of what sentence the theif got you have no idea if he just got a "slap on the rest(sic)"
Edited by Mygaffer - 5/6/11 at 2:56pm
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Bounty hunters rules differ from civilian rights and the rights of the "police". If you choose to forcibly detain a person as a civ you really need to have hard proof that there was a crime committed that warrants being detained. If you don't your going to be charged and arrested yourself. There is no law that says you cannot forcibly arrest somebody as a civilian, you just can't forcibly detain a person. An arrest must have proof that they committed a crime, period.
those same laws govern police and bounty hunters... Police and bounty hunters cannot forcibly detain someone without proper cause.
it is the law... not just the law for civilians.
    
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post #203 of 244
I'm sorry, but the employee wasn't the brightest bulb in the pack. I work at a hardware store and know its a lot easier to just follow him out to his car and write down his plates and call it a day. No one injured, no lawsuit.
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Stupid heroes.... who needs them...
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those same laws govern police and bounty hunters... Police and bounty hunters cannot forcibly detain someone without proper cause.
it is the law... not just the law for civilians.
except the people bounty hunters detain don't have rights, that is where I was going. They don't really follow the same laws as the police, in many states they can go on property without warning ect... ect... Police can detain you without cause but reasonable suspicion, something a civilian cannot.

Yes there are differences in the laws, some minor and some major.
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post #206 of 244
Time to go hit up BestBuy. Always wanted a ASUS G73. I keed, I keed.
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except the people bounty hunters detain don't have rights, that is where I was going. They don't really follow the same laws as the police, in many states they can go on property without warning ect... ect... Police can detain you without cause but reasonable suspicion, something a civilian cannot.

Yes there are differences in the laws, some minor and some major.
suspicious without reasonable cause is not enough to hold someone forcibly which is what started these arguments.
It was also a matter of what people without police powers can do.

And you are wrong if you think people that bounty hunters detain don't have rights. wow.
    
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This, plus another 2 stories I read recently, one about a beggar kid lying dead on an Italy beach while other people keep sunbathing, another one about a woman sexually harassed on the street in China and a store security guy stood right next to them and just walked away. I see that our ethics are clearly degrading as everyone is now feared of being "liable". Thanks to the system.
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sympathy = 0

he broke company policy by doing something stupid.


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suspicious without reasonable cause is not enough to hold someone forcibly which is what started these arguments.
It was also a matter of what people without police powers can do.

And you are wrong if you think people that bounty hunters detain don't have rights. wow.
No, if you get put in handcuffs without any real evidence or a warrant that is forcibly being detained. They have the right to detain you for 48 hours with no reasonable cause, on the counts of reasonable suspicion.

Next, when you sign the agreement to show up for court you waive all your rights if you don't show up. So by law, because you signed a legal agreement, you have NO rights. That is how bounty hunters can detain people, at least in the US.

I would suggest you go read some legal documents and learn how the law works before you start posting about it.

[edit] there is a HUGE difference between cause and suspicion, HUGE difference. If you get pulled over and the officer suspects you have pot (smoke) in your car they can legally detain you off the suspicion of owning a controlled substance. That is why if you deny the search of the car they can DETAIN YOU, get a warrant, then search your car anyways. Seriously, this is the problem with the united states. People don't pay attention to the laws or what rights they have or don't have then post BS because they believe it's right.
Edited by mushroomboy - 5/6/11 at 4:14pm
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