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title isn't accurate
in case there was a previous universe, then the black hole would be older than OUR universe NOT time, because time would have existed already...
post #32 of 132
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
...you actually can....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
Scientific method refers to a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge.

It's not a crutch but a process to explain. Scientific minds are able to use the scientific method to defend knowledge because it by definiton is a way to gain knowledge. It require strict rules and definitions.

What method or process do you use to defend "ignorance" or lack of understanding?
Science will always follow the money.
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title isn't accurate
in case there was a previous universe, then the black hole would be older than OUR universe NOT time, because time would have existed already...
Depends on when you believe time bagan. The common conception is at the start of our universe which might be a little self centered on our parts. I don't think anything can be older than time since it would have no begining or end...even if some how all the matter in the universe was destroyed into nothing time would still go on...kind of like that old adage about if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound if no one is there to hear it.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 5/6/11 at 2:15pm
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Science will always follow the money.
That's where you are wrong, many good scientists have been persecuted and laughed at who ended up making great discoveries. Einstein wasn't really welcomed with open arms to a lot of his theories, yet he did all of it in the pursuit of science.

I could just as easily say ignorance follows money.
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Well yeah. Each black hole is its own parallel universe, that had its own big bang. That is why they are a black hole in the first place. Every big bang occurred because of a neutron star, because neutron starts make elements lose their identity by forcing the electrons inside the nucleus of atoms. So black holes have already occurred before our big bang, which makes them older then out universe.
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It took me awhile to find it, but the title here reminded me of this article from awhile back.

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/0901...ws.2009.6.html
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Science will always follow the money.
The dumb, the intelligent, finance, thievies, the poor, the rich, etc follow money.... what's your arguement?


Also note, that most scientists are not wealthy. There are more lucrative majors after spending a decade in college.
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/6/11 at 2:29pm
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If it is older than time... then?
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If it is older than time... then?
At this density,the the time is linear,so in this case i suppose that these black holes come from another density. Being from another denisty( Perhaps a higher one) excludes them from the linear timing stucture.

The Universe is way too mkysterious for our understanding,teh dimension,the way it works is simply mindblowing.
Edited by Eduardv - 5/6/11 at 3:32pm
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I love space, science, and physics. It's always so interesting.
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